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Cochrane knew what they were doing, and what the consequences would be. There is nothing unintentional or innocent about this.

“There are others who have... ...developed a post Covid psychiatric illness.” Can't imagine who he might be thinking of. :speechless:

What is moral about imposing increasing hardship on, or simply abandoning, large numbers of sick or disabled people? All while telling them that it is for their own good? Or more and better quality research to find effective treatments or even prevent these problems in the first place?

The most important advice would be to not pay any attention to advice from the psycho-behavioural school.

For anybody having trouble watching these videos via S4ME, they can be found on this YT channel.

Okay, so they can more effectively inculcate medical ignorance and error in the next generation of doctors. And the value of that to patients is...?

At what point does this level of dishonesty become fraud?

The whole psychosomatic project is the greatest and cruelest catastrophe in modern medicine. Hands down winner. Not even close to second place. The degree, ubiquity, and sheer persistence of technical and ethical failure at all levels of governance required for this to situation to come about...

Or they could just say: 'We don't know.' But I guess there are no careers in that.

By far the hardest thing I have ever had to do.

We have gained nothing. We have lost, hugely, by every meaningful measure of quality of life. That is the reality. I defy any of those who think otherwise to trade places with one of us for a while. The vast majority of people will quickly realise how utterly wrong they were.

:mad::mad::mad:

My experience with an Omron was it gave persistently higher readings than the machine in the doctor's surgery. I even took it into the surgery one day so we could do an immediate side-by-side, and it was definitely high, by about 10-12 points, IIRC. (Was a while ago, and didn't test it enough to...

Nothing complicated about him. With respect to ME/CFS, he appears to have self-servingly taken whatever path seemed to offer the most reward and glory, without any concern for the actual outcome for patients.

Worth repeating. Yep, they know. There are no more excuses left. They are fully culpable now, in every sense.

Insanity, par excellence.

Psychological and psychiatric, social and palliative medical specialists as well as experts in rehabilitative medicine are also on board. *sigh*

More seriously, I think the secondary gains claim is actually a good angle of attack against the psycho-behavioural crowd. Ask them what the alleged 'gains' are, as compared to the obvious major losses. Do a compare and contrast. There is no world in which any fair assessment is going to come...

It is so ridiculous it is obscene. Not at my fittest in my late teens could I have achieved anything close to that, and I was pretty fit. The most generous possible interpretation here is that the researchers literally have no idea of what the average human can reasonably achieve, let alone...

Seriously misleading even. Though no doubt they are cheap and easy to do.