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Male vs. Female Differences in Responding to Oxygen–Ozone Autohemotherapy (O2-O3-AHT) in Patients with ME/CFS, 2021, Chirumbolo et al

Discussion in 'ME/CFS research' started by Sly Saint, Dec 30, 2021.

  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Male vs. Female Differences in Responding to Oxygen–Ozone Autohemotherapy (O2-O3-AHT) in Patients with Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS)

    Abstract
    (1) Background: Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) is a syndrome that has fatigue as its major symptom. Evidence suggests that ozone is able to relieve ME/CFS-related fatigue in affected patients.


    (2) Objective: To evaluate whether differences exist between males and females in ozone therapy outputs in ME/CFS.

    (3) Methods: In total, 200 patients previously diagnosed with ME/CFS (mean age 33 ± 13 SD years) underwent treatment with oxygen–ozone autohemotherapy (O2-O3-AHT). Fatigue was investigated via an FSS 7-scoring questionnaire before and following 1 month after treatment.

    (4) Results: The Mann-Whitney test (MW test) assessed the significance of this difference (H = 13.8041, p = 0.0002), and female patients showed better outcomes than males. This difference was particularly striking in the youngest age cohort (14–29 years), and a KW test resulted in H = 7.1609, p = 0.007 for the Δ = 28.3% (males = 3.8, females = 5.3).

    (5) Conclusions: When treated with O2-O3-AHT, females respond better than males.

    https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/11/1/173
     
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  2. Creekside

    Creekside Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Did they compare this to any other pain reduction techniques? Maybe females are simply more likely to check 'improved' rather than 'no change' on these sorts of questionnaires.
     
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  3. hibiscuswahine

    hibiscuswahine Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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  4. Milo

    Milo Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    oh, really?

    oh, really?

    oh, really?

    oh you’re saying?

    So, basically open label, recruited among patients who willingly came to their alternative clinic for treatment (Risk of bias: high)

    it is unclear how much these patients paid for the treatments

    That’s it. Are you tired a lot, a little bit a little less or not at all? Before therapy and after 1 month.

    No detail about the participants’s functioning before and after. No activity tracker data.

    Well, that came out of left field because nowhere on this paper do we get results or data to verify this. All that is presented is a male vs female change in score.

    This would be quite comical if it was not published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. Basically they are saying ‘we have no clue why it works and why women respond better to ozone treatments, but anywho, come on up, we take credit cards. We also take your blood but we give it right back into ya.’

    interesting.

    Edit to add: there is an open review, which does not enlighten much i am afraid. https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/11/1/173/review_report

    Edit to add #2:
    So basically they were enrolling their own patients coming for ozone anyways, made them sign a consent and given the treatment and questionnaire. It sounds like the rules are different in Italy, in regards to ethics review board. They used their in-house ethics review board and followed the declaration of Helsinki. There would be a few ethical questions in regards to the process from my point of view.
     
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  5. dratalanta

    dratalanta Established Member (Voting Rights)

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    What about male vs. female differences in response to placebo in an open label trial based on self-reporting of subjective data? Since such trials are anyway useless, it’s perhaps to be expected that there seems to be a relative lack of research into the influence of agreeableness (in the technical sense) on the results of this kind of pseudo-trial. But since we do know that women score higher for agreeableness, and since the participant’s willingness to go along with things is a major issue in this kind of trial, the failure to consider this explanation does make me wonder if anyone before us actually read the paper with any seriousness.
     
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