Hi all - sorry to have missed so much of this discussion - it appears very useful. At the heart of this is one issue: for many diseases, the...
Both Simon and I responded quickly to say that we are happy for these reports to be shared, and that we had no wish to withold these - have they...
Moved post ----- Key points from Forward ME meeting (on 22 May 2024): · DHSC presentation of responses to IDP consultation given....
Another study relevant to LongCovid which used mice. While the details are over my head, it is published in Nature - generally a strong indicator...
One of the authors we are talking about is Akiko Iwasaki, Sterling Professor of Immunobiology and Molecular, Cellular and Developmental Biology,...
There is a very clear, highly restrictive policy in two cases against use of animals in testing. Even if reagents conflict with that policy (which...
You said "clearly ME Research UK and Action for ME does fund research that involves the use of animals". That directly contradicts their policy....
What I care about is maximising our opportunities to understand this awful disease, and avoiding barriers to progress. If that involves studies...
I find this very strange. Either you think that the words and phrases used on their websites don’t mean what they say… or that the charities who...
ME Research UK From: https://www.meresearch.org.uk/research/research-grants/ "ME Research UK does not fund research which involves the use of...
You're selectively quoting there. I went on to say: "you can't delberately infect a load of people, euthanise them, then pick them apart to...
OK, but surely the point of these studies is not to give definitive answers... Their objective in these studies is to generate hypotheses. These...
I have had a look at the links - In the first you quote one person's opinion article - it's not a study of mouse studies, it's opinion. In...
This study was not testing a finding in humans - it was looking to gain insights into how covid infection might induce cognitive impairment. It...
And another LongCovid study benefitting from mouse models, this time in nature immunology: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-024-01868-z It...
The study showed a difference between samples transferred from Healthy Controls and people with a specific set of LongCovid symptoms. The study...
Here’s another interesting LongCovid study conducted in mice, identifying cross-reactivity with antibodies....
As if one cue: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-02010-7 Danny Altmann, an immunologist at Imperial College London, is more sceptical....
No, clearly I don’t mean “torturing humans”. But that may mean consenting volunteers undertaking 2 day invasive CPETs, or trying therapies with...
The problem with this argument is that it ignores the pain, suffering and - if you want to use this language - torture that ME causes to people....
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