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  1. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    Context pages 71 - 72 lines 9 - Context We recommend that the Context, currently placed near the end of the draft guideline, be moved to a more prominent position at the beginning. This would be in line with the multiple sclerosis guideline where the Context is on page 4. A lot of the...
  2. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    Recommendations for research page 45 lines 24-26 Diagnostic tests. We agree this is important. page 46 lines 1-3 Core outcome set We agree this is important. We suggest adding: 'including objective measures and ones that can be automated such as wearable technologies and apps.' We also think...
  3. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    Terms used in this guideline page 41 lines 9-11 Activity Suggest add: 'For people with very severe ME/CFS, significant activities include, for example, swallowing and listening to quiet speech'. page 42 lines 4-6 Energy Envelope. We find the definition unclear. We recommend that 'Energy...
  4. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    Terms used in this guideline Comment on section 'Terms used in this guideline' Explanation of terms used: The section 'Terms used in this guideline' states: 'Terms have been used in a particular way for this guideline'. We are concerned that new terms and new uses of terms will lead to...
  5. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    1.15 Training for health and social care professionals General This new guideline presents a paradigm shift in the understanding of ME/CFS. It is essential that the recommendations are communicated urgently to clinical commissioning groups, specialist clinics, medical colleges and professional...
  6. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    Section 1.14 - Review page 39 lines 2-4 This assumes the patient has a management plan. There is also a need to more clearly differentiate what care is appropriate in primary care and what requires specialist care. Replace the 'General' section with subheading 'Review of adults in primary...
  7. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    1.13 Managing flares and relapses Comment on section 1.13 Managing flares and relapses We find that the whole guideline, especially the management sections, focuses almost entirely on day to day management, and offers little, if any, information or guidance for clinicians or patients on dealing...
  8. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    1.12 Managing coexisting conditions page 36 lines 5-6 This is an important point and needs emphasising. We suggest adding: Note that doctors need to be alert to the development of new comorbidities, and not assume new symptoms are part of ME/CFS even if they overlap with ME/CFS symptom lists...
  9. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    1.11 pt 3 Psychological support - Line by line comments: 1.11.43: p.34 lines 2-5: The guidance not to offer CBT as a treatment or cure for ME/CFS is welcomed, but should be clearer. Suggested wording: ‘CBT and other psychological therapies are not a treatment or cure for ME/CFS, or for the...
  10. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    1.11 pt 3 Psychological support: Cognitive behavioural therapy p.34 line 1: Comment on the subsection 'Psychological support: cognitive behavioural therapy' We recommend the subsection ‘Psychological support: cognitive behavioural therapy’ (1.11.43 - 1.11.50, pp.34-35) be deleted in its...
  11. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    1.11 pt II Managing ME/CFS (Symptoms management) Rest and Sleep p.29 line 17: CBT should not be offered to support people to manage sleep issues in ME/CFS, as the evidence review found no reliable evidence of benefit of CBT for sleep quality, and quality of evidence for all outcomes across all...
  12. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    1.11.11 - 1.11.16 (3 of 4) Physical maintenance p.26 line 16: We think the subsection, 'Physical maintenance' is a helpful, practical subsection that can make a difference to the well-being of people with ME/CFS and their carers. ———————— 1.11.11: p.26 lines 17-22: Include dental health in...
  13. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    1.11.17 - 1.11.22 (4 of 4) ——————————— 1.11.17: p.28 lines 12-15: Should be deleted and replaced with: ‘People with ME/CFS will typically naturally increase physical activity if there is an increase in capacity. Advise taking any increases in activity slowly and to cut back and rest more if...
  14. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    1.11.4 - 1.11.10 (2 of 4) 1.11.4: p.25 lines 15-22 Recommendation 1.11.4 is too oriented to forward planning of activities, and makes no mention of taking notice of symptoms. It is based on the assumption the patient knows their 'energy envelope', a term we have advised against using, and...
  15. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    1.11 pt I Managing ME/CFS Energy management, Physical maintenance, physical activity 1.11.1 - 1.11.3 (1 of 4) 1.11.1 p.24 lines 4-5: We agree with this statement and its inclusion in the guideline. ————————————————— Energy management 1.11.2 p. 24 line 7: We suggest substantial revision...
  16. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    Section 1.10 Multidisciplinary care p.22 line 13: We suggest changing the heading of section 1.10 from 'Multidisciplinary care' to 'Coordination of care', as referred to in Evidence Review I (p.23 line 46) and to reflect use in the NICE clinical guideline, 'Multiple sclerosis in adults...
  17. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    Section 1.9 Supporting people with ME/CFS in work, education and training 1.9.1 page 21 lines 4 - 5 Many people with ME/CFS will not be able to return to work or education at all, or may gradually deteriorate due to doing more than can be sustained. Therefore the advice needs to be realistic...
  18. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    Section 1.8 Access to Care page 17 line 20 Access to Care: Overall section 1.8 is helpful. We are concerned that there will be a wide gap between what is recommended and what happens in practice. We recommend that the importance of this section be emphasised in the guideline. Many people with...
  19. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    1.7 Safeguarding p.16 line 5 (General): Move the content of 1.7 Safeguarding ME/CFS to the Section 1.2 Suspecting ME/CFS. The reason safeguarding requires comment in this guideline is because there have been failures on the part of doctors to recognise ME/CFS, and to convey that diagnosis and...
  20. Science For ME

    Science for ME submission to the NICE draft ME/CFS guideline consultation, December 2020, and submission on substantive errors, August 2021

    1.6 Information and support p. 13 line 14: We appreciate that section 1.6 sets out the major impact of the illness on the lives of people with ME/CFS and makes it clear how important accurate and up-to-date information on financial and social support for people with ME/CFS and their families...
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