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nanoneedle doesnt know MS or MECFS definite MECFS = nanoneedle + RBC reduced deform (or brain scan to rule out MS damage) https://www.omf.ngo/2019/05/07/health-rising-threading-the-needle-nanoneedle/

two drugs identified ! they can deactivate "the thing" ! ... should this be indeed the previously mentioned Elamipretide SS-31 and copaxone ? anyone going to try copaxone ? https://www.omf.ngo/2019/05/07/health-rising-threading-the-needle-nanoneedle/ i believe, the two esfandyarpours could be...

no hypothesis... this applies to everyone, i understand. different parts age in different speed, due to disease not fully healed ... or something like that. perhaps, such findings can one day prevent diseases.

im wondering, if the effect would have turned into the opposite, when they had stayed 3 month and more in high-salt-environment (assuming it is in the air).

aquaporins breaking down ? too many, too few, something wrong with them or uninteresting ... ? 1.5h was when most of the healthy showed some beep should be easy to test when healthy blood would react similar after 3-5 hours the healthy signal looks cut at 2.5h...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5450642/

concussion is also, when quite beaten around the head by parent ? i would think. another thing i wonder: can this concussion/trauma effect also be applied to the lungs ? (e.g. near-drowning-experience ...) ? or other organs even ?

wouldnt it be interesting to have a poll on "mothers" ? how would you describe the relationship, now and then any complaints, any invaluable positive or negative experiences ? was she ill ? how was her take on diseases you had ? how was your "disease experience" compared to your age matched...

would it be interesting to see blood , urine, tissue samples of the same patients after extensive exercise ? ETA: or perhaps a diving session ?

@Ron, have you been in a crash when one of the stool samples was taken ? if so, how much of the crash you were in by then (in %... in case it got worse after taking sample) did they also take other things, blood, urine ? and the test was just bicycle ?

this curve looks like the signal one... going much down initially the davis-curve (salt) with the signal then explodes, while this morten-plasma (oxygen) from 1:75h stays the same

i tried ritalin (2012 ?), was like being jittery or "nervous", while being glued to the chair. the best thing ever was viagra (im female), but it seemed to loose effect after 2 months. im still wondering, if i should take it again.

could this be caused by osmotic dysfunction (changes / stress) ? how could this be tested ? (something like space/astronaut training ?)

someone on healthrising also tried it for a couple of weeks, and gave up without finding a noticeable effect from copaxone. by now, we dont know what the "physical" effects are of the signal problem found with the nano needle. it may be a downstream thing or it may be an important defense...

seems odd that nobody here has been treated with copaxone so far ? who tried copaxone ? with all this osmose stress, im wondering how IVs are being compensated... should be generally a bad thing ?

@mariovitali A member on phoenix rising didnt report a negative outcome. copaxone didnt change anything in 4-6 weeks. then it was stopped. thats what i understand. copaxone may be able to repair the myelin damage. even if its hepatoxic, this may be the lesser problem.

it would be interesting to see, what the severe patients had in common. in terms of meds taken in their lifetime, vaccinations, infectious diseases ... (things not directly or closely related to falling sick)

they added a lot of salt as a stressor. stressor to simulate PEM/exercise/crash. (i understand) - there are other stressors, e.g. lipopolysaccarides.. - but no other stressor was tested, only salt - the stressor caused a non-beneficial event (assuming) since mecfs cells react that sensitive to...

we should ask a wastewater expert for their opinion "regular" medical profession is not equipped to answer such questions

the first pic with the signal (impedence/resistance) ... it seems that things start after 30-45 minutes only. is this odd ? and then it basically explodes. its gross steep. then runs out of steam. could it look like a chemical reaction of some sort ? also, the healthy controls increase as well...