As if one cue: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-02010-7 Danny Altmann, an immunologist at Imperial College London, is more sceptical....
No, clearly I don’t mean “torturing humans”. But that may mean consenting volunteers undertaking 2 day invasive CPETs, or trying therapies with...
The problem with this argument is that it ignores the pain, suffering and - if you want to use this language - torture that ME causes to people....
Doubtless there are people who would not stomach such studies. The same can be said about the working of an abattoir. But just as there are people...
The problem is that the charity sector is the largest funder of medical research. In other disease areas, the charity sector tends to fund more...
Clearly I am not qualified to take a strong view on the efficacy of animal models, but the point that has been made here is that there are...
Not quite right - this thread was first started after 2 UK ME/CFS charities stated to me, quote “our position on using animals in research is...
Well many people have thought about that. So the question of morality of testing on animals (and whether it should be done in ME/CFS) essentially...
Well, on a practical level, many of us do eat meat, poison and trap mice, kill slugs etc. All things which our society does not accept being done...
I would agree with you that animals exercised to exhaustion are not in any way a proxy for ME/CFS. The question is, if insights can be gained...
A load of our current medications were developped before we had any understanding of the mechanism underpinning them. While the idea of...
many pigs in the UK are slaughtered using CO2 asphyxiation. That doesn’t disprove your point (about which I simply have no insight) but I do eat...
The study I am referring to was not an animal model of ME/CFS, they injected mice with extracts of blood from ppl with LongCovid, and those mice...
Given the pre-print released this weekend, showing that IgG from people with LongCovid, injected into mice caused the mice to exhibit symptoms, I...
Exactly this - we need to ensure we engage people experiencing this disease (and arguably even more importantly - their families) but who aren't...
:emoji_clap::emoji_clap::emoji_clap::emoji_clap: Thank you Professor - that is a very useful insight. For what it's worth: So long as the person...
Developing the 'Search Engine Optimisation' problem: (This is fundamental because google searching is how most people get information. If ME...
My view is that there are already too many ME charities. Adding an additional one would just increase the problem. Ideally a Long Covid charity...
The NHS website links to the ME Association website: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-cfs/ Honestly I hear this argument...
Hi all, thanks for sharing and talking about this - I am grateful. Firstly, apologies for the length - it was unrehearsed. I hope to get this down...
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