Why is RECOVER-TLC not exploring any of this? Why do they insist on working siloed off from the rest of the post infectious illness field? I will never understand.
I agree too, this is a really good idea.
Agreed @Sasha, it would be good to talk to Haukeland about their perspective on all of this. I'm not up to it myself atm unfortunately.
Agreed. If there is a way this can go faster without losing the standards of rigour that we need, we need to know and work towards it happening.
Whether the drug works or not, we need to know as soon as it is feasibly possible.
I think the amount of medical neglect we have faced makes us numb...
My point is that they seemed to have an overly rigorous criteria, perhaps to slow things down to a crawl as part of said foot dragging exercise. Which might sound conspiratorial but when you consider the history of ME at the NIH and the effort prefference nonsense they came up with...
Fluge and...
I don't think this is a useful comparison. The NIH study was a deliberate foot dragging exercise run in part by someone whose goal was to prove ME was caused by thoughts and behaviours. There was a lot of criticism of the fact they only enrolled under 20 patients from such a big pool.
This is a very good question. Perhaps we could email the trial coordinator about it. I think her email is somewhere in the last few pages of this thread.
'A persistent immune or inflammatory response has been proposed […] However, an alternative explanation would be […] A generalized dysfunction of unmyelinated somatosensory and sympathetic nerve fibers would lead to widespread symptoms because of their almost universal body distribution, leading...
This is needlessly vague and plays into the BPS people's hands. 'Oh we already have a specialist NHS service of bullshit and stealth GET no need to worry.'
We need a specialist physician led service with home visits and trained nurses to do blood draws and the like.
Why on earth could they not...
I think it would be really good if some labs could look at CD38 so we have a better understanding of the evidence base by the time of the results.
I think Chris Armstrong posted that he planned to do some more work in that area the other day.
I mean, they do say that the study is funded by patients and patient organisations, so maybe a patient org has stepped up and done the right thing. But it could be the ME funds original 4 million NOK.
I really hope it's true but I'm not counting my chickens until it's confirmed.
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