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Arrgh! The resistance to NZ's elimination strategy is getting organised. I can't find any reason for it other than that they're a bunch of academics peeved that the government has chosen to listen to more cautious voices, rather than to them. I do wonder though if they don't also have other...

For information: The article links to 3 information sheets about PEM and Pacing we've discussed and fine-tuned in this members-only thread: https://www.s4me.info/threads/feedback-please-draft-info-sheets-pem-pacing.13712/ The direct links to the information sheets are...

Just out of interest, does anyone have access to the e-learning assessment on this article? If I understand this correctly, doctors can read the article and then do some sort of assessment to claim some sort of continuing education credits?

I particularly liked this bit: Pacing before final diagnosis is rarely suggested but so important. If at the end of the diagnostic process it turns out the person didn't have ME after all - no harm done. They may be marginally less fit than they might otherwise have been but nothing that can't...

I don't know the system so don't know what to say about timing. Are the people who usually deal with Health Pathways currently flat out with Covid-19 response planning? In which case timing would be bad. Or are they like EDs and GPs and twiddling their thumbs right now? In which case timing...

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Apparently many GPs aren't very busy right now, with many people avoiding going to the doctor unless it's absolutely necessary. Here's hoping some GPs are using that downtime to do some upskilling with this article. Given the current knowledge many GPs have - or...

I've been approved. Took maybe 5 days, so 2-3 business days. Don't think age is a factor as I'm much too young for the Supergold card. Unfortunately approval doesn't translate into actual delivery slots in my rural area which is serviced by rural delivery courier. Maybe it's a bit better in...

No references, sorry, just a vague recollection of reading that those estimates are based on other corona virusses which, apparently, typically only induce short- to medium-term immunity.

Further on lockdown effectiveness, unsurprisingly Google is keeping track of it. You can download a pdf country report which gives whole country figures as well as regional breakdowns of how much people frequent certain places (work, shops, parks, home, etc) before and after lockdowns. Though...

This article compares the timing and strictness of lockdowns in a number of countries we don't hear much about, like Estonia and Paraguay, and how they're faring. So far the evidence points towards locking down early and hard as the least bad approach...

Editorial in the NZ Medical Journal outlining how NZ's response to covid-19 started with dusting off the pandemic influenza plan - essentially a mitigation strategy since nobody believes influenza can be eliminated - before turning comparatively quickly to an elimination strategy when it became...

@Andy Are you in contact with Mike Snyder? He would be an obvious candidate to set up something involving wearables to track both covid-19 infection and recovery - or descent into ME - as discussed in several posts above.

Still thinking aloud on the question of predicting recovery from covid-19. 1) We still don't know whether prolonged post-viral fatigue and ME are the same thing or not. They sure look similar as far as symptoms go but is the underlying pathology really the same? Is PVF an early form of ME or...

There are a number of studies underway trying to use consumer wearables to predict onset of covid19 early. Can they be convinced to extend their studies to include predicting recovery, or failure thereof, too? It should be easy for them to look at activity patterns before, during and after...

Very much so. I wasn't thinking about PwME, they'd be eligible anyway with or without code (just easier with the code). I was more concerned about random people cottoning on to it and abusing it, and sharing it on social media, which could then backfire if Countdown gets overloaded by false...

Should the above be in a public thread @Hutan? I received two emails about it, one from ANZMES and one from my local group, so I imagine other members of either ANZMES or a local group would have the information already.

They've significantly ramped up the number of tests they can do in a day and have just started testing everybody who presents with symptoms (but not asymptomatic people though there is talk of possible random testing in the future). Up until now it was only people who'd been overseas or who had...

NZ's Ministry of Health has published their latest modelling reports (and they aren't pretty though we still have a chance to avoid the worst): https://www.health.govt.nz/publication/covid-19-modelling-reports Related article: More at...

And if Covid-19 patients are at risk of developing ME that risk increases if recovering patients are pushed into GET... So yes, the update of the guidelines - removing GET recommendations - would be a relevant response to Covid19.

I think we all agree that some mistakes were made. IMO the worst one was giving people a few days notice of the 14-day self-isolation requirement. That requirement should have been applied a) earlier and b) with immediate effect. Giving advance notice resulted in all those thousands of people...