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  1. John Mac

    Can physical assessment techniques aid diagnosis in people with CFS/ME? A diagnostic accuracy study, 2017, Perrin et al

    No I copied that from the ProHealth website coverage of the study http://www.prohealth.com/library/showarticle.cfm?libid=16557 Apologies for the confusion.
  2. John Mac

    Can physical assessment techniques aid diagnosis in people with CFS/ME? A diagnostic accuracy study, 2017, Perrin et al

    Perrin wasn't involved in this study, the 100% quote was from the authors of this paper. What does it matter what the cause of the tender points is, it is still a diagnostic marker differentiating people with ME from healthy controls. Criticism of his treatment shouldn't detract from the...
  3. John Mac

    Can physical assessment techniques aid diagnosis in people with CFS/ME? A diagnostic accuracy study, 2017, Perrin et al

    A study finding similar results http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/147323001103900122 http://www.prohealth.com/library/showarticle.cfm?libid=16557 Edited to add prohealth source of the quote
  4. John Mac

    Can physical assessment techniques aid diagnosis in people with CFS/ME? A diagnostic accuracy study, 2017, Perrin et al

    No I wasn't given any treatment it was just a physical examination from a Perrin practitioner, an NHS physiotherapist trained in the Perrin examination and a doctor. All in all it took about 1 hour.
  5. John Mac

    Can physical assessment techniques aid diagnosis in people with CFS/ME? A diagnostic accuracy study, 2017, Perrin et al

    I think I may heard it from South Sefton ME support group but not 100% sure. I wasn't recruited by any Perrin Practicioner I had no contact with them previously other than attending a lecture in 2010/11 b Dr Perrin. So I don't think the Practioner could have known who I was unless they were...
  6. John Mac

    Can physical assessment techniques aid diagnosis in people with CFS/ME? A diagnostic accuracy study, 2017, Perrin et al

    It had plenty of value for me. It is the only time someone has found physical abnormalities associated with ME
  7. John Mac

    Can physical assessment techniques aid diagnosis in people with CFS/ME? A diagnostic accuracy study, 2017, Perrin et al

    I was one of the ME patients in this study and was very impressed by how the Perrin practitioner was able to quickly home in on the sore lymph nodes that they say is characteristic of ME. I already knew of one of the points from attending a lecture by Dr Perrin about 5 years earlier however the...
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