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Similar patterns have likely been found for ME/CFS in Norway: https://www.s4me.info/threads/socioeconomic-determinants-of-me-cfs-in-norway-a-registry-study-hilland-and-anthun-2023.33011/

Someone must have had fun making the graphical abstract. Less is apparently not more.

68 authors!

Maybe a bit of both. My parents don’t fully understand either, even though they have to care for me because I’m bedbound as a result of covid. It’s difficult to question your reality, but it’s also convenient for politicians to just not do it properly.

@Peter Trewhitt @MittEremltage That’s the level of the Norwegian discussion as well. Some politicians have been talking about LC, but they don’t seem to understand the gravity of the situation.

I don’t expect you to be able to follow everything, you’re already on top of so much! We have a huge debate in Norway regarding the increase in sick leave, and fortunately some researchers and doctors have been trying to explain that you have to consider covid as a massive contributor. It’s a...

@Midnattsol good points!

I hope the Covid Association is trying to tell them that the increase probably is an increase in LC?

Average time to diagnosis to Norway was somost 8 years in one pre-covid survey from the Norwegian ME/CFS. Many report an instant onset from e.g. an infection, so it seems like this is less likely (although it can’t be excluded).

Thank goodness these people could help the alternative providers with writing a business case.

A normal CPET is done like this: Procedure Attach electrocardiogram (ECG) electrodes and blood pressure cuff. If using a bicycle ergometer, adjust seat to proper height level and null bike. Obtain baseline ECG, blood pressure, and VO2/VCO2 measurements. Begin exercise period and record data...

I understand that they are only using an average, but that’s about the only thing I understand!

If thoughts can affect any part of the body in any way, then I should be able to make myself turn green without any external interventions. If you tell me that’s impossible, I challenge you to define what is possible and not. You should quickly come to the realisation that there are physical...

The speculate about of few mechanisms, but they go way beyond the evidence.

An example of real harm and a potentially fatal situation caused by ignorance and gaslighting. Edit: by harm I mean her not seeking care sooner and being misdiagnosed with depression. Ms. R, 31 years old, developed ME/CFS after a moderate bout of COVID-19 in 2023. The symptoms of COVID-19...

There was no correlation between symptoms and satisfaction. They did not control for all common demographics. I’m not surprised if people are less satisfied with gaslighting..

Looks like SB431542 has been around for over two decades, but there are no studies on humans yet. https://www.stemcell.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?category_option=Documents&parent_skus=72232&q=72232&resource_type=Reference

That still can’t explain how the upper bound per person is 11k. 11k is 1/6 of the average yearly wage. Unless tended means that they’ve just shown some kind of median value and the actual spread is a lot wider. If that’s the case, it’s very misleading. Nobody will read the abstract and suspect...

The average US salary is $66,000, so $10,000 would account for 2 months of lost productivity due to the absence from work. I don’t have access to the paper, but I’m almost suspecting that they might have used taxes instead or income? The average tax rate is 14.5 %. Of 66k, that’s about $10,000...