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And mention/tie it to recent changes in things like conversion courses being allowed to be offered and concerns over how content can be harmful if incorrect assumptions are behind what is being directed at etc. I do think there is a common sense/descriptive model based on logic for harm of...

I don't understand why if she is offering courses then those are not under the CMA (competition and markets authority) regarding evidencing any claims made. Then there is the ASA. The ILM is best known as an acronym for the institute for leadership and management, which is reasonably well...

I don’t see where the health or wellbeing part in what she offers is it’s disgusting and shouldn’t be being branded as a product under any of the labels she claims at all. It’s just selling bigotry and lies then pretending to cure them ‘send your disabled relative to us because the horrible...

Substitute ME/CFS in what she says with any other minority, equality issue, 'individual difference' ... along with her utter lack of any qualifications or experience (which she seems to have 'faked' or 'inferred' but never had .. which says it all really doesn't it about what kind of person does...

From what I remember Elain Wilkins (and if I remember there was another woman was there too when this first started - ah yes, that is here earlier in the thread) the background of this is more the 'classic snake oil salesman model' where she/they came into it not from a background of even...

But anyone who does psychology would have thought British psychological society for BPS - which isn’t an unrelated subject area given that it’s psychology that we need to starting turning on holding and calling out the psychosomatic’s methodology (as it used to). I don’t know whether this is...

The BPS accreditation document for undergraduate degrees is here: https://cms.bps.org.uk/sites/default/files/2022-07/Undergraduate%20Accreditation%20Handbook%202019.pdf and page 10-11 onwards focuses on the content part. Note that it goes onto to talk about research design and ability to design...

I don't know whether I can get the title or the section correct here but it is a point I've been wanting to bring up quite seriously for a while. In psychology the BPS is the British Psychological Society. And it is this that provides the accreditation for UK Psychology degrees and certainly...

That's a pretty fundamental gap that you've flagged, and it also explains a lot. Including the unhelpful confusion of what PEM is - because the work hasn't been done on finding out what we all mean by it. Indeed it probably varies not only by severity but also what you've done/has caused it, so...

Nope it is 'service management' and should be if outsourced being done by service marketers or managers who are pros in good customer-oriented service. Along with experts in the right medical specialisms/allied areas. I'm cynical enough to think bunging it under a pseudo-psych term, and the...

The important bit is that it is 'someone else's job'. Just like they term as 'mental health'/see it as 'a separate department' rather than realising that really if they accurately knew what that term was at all then they'd change how they acted to not harm people e.g. look into length of time...

It is an interesting topic. A more interesting one is to think of any industries/sectors where regulators and/or oversight does manage to do a good job, and what is particular about what makes these things work because I suspect the process and other bits is more/as important as the 'policy'...

Agree on the specific substance being more relevant. My reaction to wine for example is weird and extreme (a few sips immediately drunk) vs other alcohol but variation across all have been apparent over the decades so the what specifically is in it also seems to be important

Spot on. Those pwme who can do anything see it as a privelege and do it because we'd all like to but we can't because our health is affected by it. So what is with the old school tone? I thought these presumptions about pwme might at least be vanquished in allies post Workwell and the new...

'unless really necessary' shouldn't they learn that in the hands of the current cultural environment you can't provide that ambiguity (and then combine it with the ambiguity of not having severity-specific advice) to those who will be around pwme, who will be the ones who can frustrate judgement...

Your last point is really pertinent to their whole area. How is it that people sign off allowing 'research' for something that is clearly not actually a treatment. That con needs to be finally cut off at the knees. Behavioural approaches and attitudes have very limited contexts of applicability...

Indeed and I think the pattern-seeking being WITHIN individuals is going to be vital given the latency + size/type of symptoms (and mapping patterns in those and longevity) needs to relate to the ‘relative magnitude’ of that activity (vs that persons’ norm) for that person. THEN compared to...

It's as funny as them believing that the patients who recover are those who never see a doctor or go to a hospital so that must be the cure and treatment isn't it. SO in effect the existence of medicine itself by that theory would be what causes illness. Yet they never fall into that trap, so...

I haven't been able to read the actual paper in full here but have read the comments. I do certainly agree with concerns about how things are going to be mapped time-wise as ME is indeed ripe and has suffered from those who see what they want to see. Any subject doing poor correlation-based...

Erm isn't this even confused in their own selling it to themselves when they diss functional medicine as 'very different and quackery' compared to those woh 'treat conversion disorder' noting that functional medicine works because even a placebo can help, when isn't erm the whole area of those...