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Early on Canadians were happy with free Tim Horton coffees and ice cream offered at the vax centres, until we saw what you guys were giving away in the US. Suddenly we're feeling worthy of more.

The party is just getting started up here. I'm thinking I'll wait a little longer to get my vaccine . . . If the nurse calls to book my home visit, I might just be a little more reluctant.:whistle:

In the US they are offering incentives like million dollar lotteries, sports event tickets, new guns etc to convince the anti-vaxxers to get vaccinated. Canada is starting to do the same except for the gun giveaways. Some doctors are saying that this is not going to motivate anti-vaxxers.

https://otd.harvard.edu/news/nanoneedle-technology-licensed-for-early-disease-detection-biomarker-discov/

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/clinical-care/post-covid-management.html

The modern coinage is called 'ego-surfing'.

@Ariel I understand and relate to your situation. My GP strongly advises I get the vaccine even though I've been sick from a possible Covid exposure early last year. I think 99% of GP's will advise that you get the vaccine. I have not been vaccinated yet and cancelled my MRI...

My PEM has remained the same until I developed autonomic impairment years later.

@borko2100 There is a subgroup that don't have autonomic dysfunction, I didn't until 10 years into the illness after I had a relapse from reactivation of EBV and HHV6 at the same time. I also didn't experience PEM until years later. It does appear that autonomic issues plays a role in...

The persistant viral theory gets recycled every 6-7 years.

I can think of a whole new thread dedicated to naming his new cameo.

Hi @Arvo welcome to the forum! I've heard of several tennis players who contracted EBV/glandular fever and had to retire from their professional careers because of ongoing illness. Sweden's Robin Soderling comes to mind.

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6545/957 “Removing energy from a person's legs during walking may sound counterintuitive, like applying the brake in a moving car,” says Michael Shepertycky, a recent PhD graduate and lead author of the study, “but our muscles naturally remove energy...

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsbl.2021.0125 For canaries, just seeing their feathered friends get sick may be enough to preemptively rev up their immune systems.

All my lymphocytes (CD4, CD8 etc) are all below normal, only normal range counts are my NK cells. I've read that CD8 deficiencies also occurs in healthy blood relatives of patients with autoimmune diseases, suggesting it is genetically determined.

This CFS mouse took those pills and now he's recovered! Watch 'til the end ;)

We can change the language of calling it 'fatigue' and replace it with autonomic impairment? There are treatments available for this. Many of us would be a lot less disabled if this was properly diagnosed and treated.

I had all the PCR RNA/DNA testing under the sun done years ago when I felt very 'viral', everything came back 'normal'. I seem to recall the virologist telling me that it was high levels of interferons that were making me feel this way. I also know what active EBV and HHV6 feels like...

@Sarah94 I haven't been vaccinated yet, but I am concerned about the type of chairs we have to sit on to wait the 15 minutes. Something most people wouldn't even think about. Hoping I get a home visit soon so I can jump in my bed and relax after.

Same, it's only from past experiences that I'm able to avoid PEM, and when it occurs there is no stopping it.