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Is anyone aware of studies that have quantified the severity of initial COVID-19 infection and development of ME/CFS? We know that (i) ME/CFS can develop after any severity of acute infection; (ii) patients often report development of ME/CFS after mild or moderate infection; but do we have data...

@ME/CFS Skeptic are you intending to submit a response to this article?

Print article in the Telegraph — complete with a terribly misquoted pull quote stating:“The effectiveness of CBT and rehabilitation implies that long COVID is not real but psychological.” I guess this is the icing on the cake. Can't see Garner and co being in any rush to call the Telegraph.

Thanks for sharing. I almost made a thread earlier this year asking for such links — specifically stats for healthcare and clinical science.

This is probably what he was referring to on radio.

I have added a community note to Garner's latest post promoting the COFFI YouTube video. Please rate accordingly!

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-systematic-review-looking-at-interventions-including-talking-therapy-and-rehabilitation-for-the-management-of-long-covid/

This is likely the future paper Garner was referring to on the BBC radio segment.

The Jake who asks a question near the end is Dr Jake Hollis who wrote the two confused Guardian letters recently.

I think the overriding factor is whether the LC patient has ME/CFS or not.

I am resurecting this thread to keep track of NIH grants/awards following discussions in another thread. Perhaps we can move this thread to the 'ME/CFS research news' subforum and use it to keep track of NIH awards....??

Perhaps we need a general NIH awards/grants thread, if we've not got one already.

Are your muscles tender to touch, especially during PEM? Pain is also not one of my major symptoms, but if I'm in bad PEM I can barely palpate some of my muscles, particularly in certain areas.

There are lots of related grants listed on the NIH link. Wonder if these have been discussed here...?

Ah, I see. In that case it's not actually wrong, as it's an internal link for the website indicating what class of news release the article is. Just a bit confusing.

i think this link needs fixing as it currently goes to a generic page. The NIH grant is here: https://reporter.nih.gov/search/1u1EMRDAXEi6MB5HeUbWbA/project-details/10951972

There are companies that specialise in sending out multiple pairs of glasses through the post. I assume they will also do sunglasses. I can't remember the companies at the moment, but if you google 'try glasses at home' you'll get multiple hits. Not sure which country you are in.

They've hired a lot of extra staff over the last couple of years. In one of their annual financial reports not that many years ago they claimed they had only 6 full-time staff, or full-time equivalents. Can't quite remember now.

We know bedrest on the scale of weeks to months has consequences for our bodies, but, at some point, in ME/CFS, bedrest is likely a net beneficial, compared with trying to push through each day. There's no objective testing to show us at what stage this occurs, and it's likely different in each...