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Yes, that's them. I was on this thread planning to post this myself. I was actually pleasantly surprised as it seemed they have become somewhat less extreme in the psychology-direction. But that in itself really says a lot about them and where they are coming from. I don't know that much about...

Paul Garner going on about PEM being classical conditioning makes me think he's probably been exposed to Vegard Bruun Wyllers (unproven and implausible) "sustained arousal theory". Bruun Wyller lists these factors in his strange BPS-model which can be read here...

In the study's acknowledgement-section they thank Recovery Norway for help with recruiting participants. It's not very surprising then that they find that all of the recovered patients had done some form of mind-body-techniques, as this is literally a prerequisite to become a member there: The...

This might seem strange to a lot of people here, but as annoying as these LP/BPS-pushers are, I also kind of feel for sorry them. Live Landmark once asked me to write a post about how much LP had helped me, I willingly complied and she shared it in an LP group. Maybe I could have been made to go...

I think this is a strategy the LP-coaches consciously and actively use to "lock in" the LP training, by making people go public about it and claim to be healed. It's difficult to admit publicly that you were wrong and perhaps drew conclusions to hastily. And it's perhaps especially hard...

Yes, normally LP courses from Live Landmark are given outside of Oslo, over three days with 4-5 hours each day, with a group of up to 10 patients (not all of them typically have ME). I doubt that he has actually sat through that in Norway with us lowly, common people. My very clear impression is...

I can't remember that being said on my particular course, but it does sound like something she could've said. If people asked us how we were doing we were instructed to say "kjempebra!" with enthusiasm. Which I guess could be translated into answering "really great!" in English. The...

A big part of LP (how it was taught to me at least) is that's important to believe these things to recover (and stay recovered). So if a person attributes their recovery to these beliefs, it's easy to understand why they are so obsessed with them. In their mind this understanding is what's...

I did the Lightning Process with the same instructor that Paul Garner had (Live Landmark, the "Norwegian PhD Candidate in Psychology"), and I think that's a good summary. In your LP training you are told that you are actually healthy, you are instructed to move towards living an active life as...

Knowing these researchers and their history, I'm certain they included this supplement in full knowledge that this is not a plausible treatment and that it is highly unlikely to yield any big effect. They will of course find an effect in the psychosocial treatment arm, and they will conclude...

Reading about him it makes perfect sense that he and Paul Garner found each other. The subheading of "Covid 19 pandemic" under Controversies is especially enlightening.

It's interesting that these authors conclude that there's no compelling evidence for HBOT as a treatment for LC. Another systematic review that was just published came to the opposite conclusion: Most studies found that HBOT can improve quality of life, fatigue, cognition, neuropsychiatric...

I think the therapy they are talking about is basically Alan Gordons "Pain Reprocessing Therapy", only rebranded: https://www.painreprocessingtherapy.com/

That a group of people who are chronically fatigued and in pain (that flares up when they try to exercise) are less physically fit than people who don't have these challenges, might be the least surprising results I can imagine. Maybe they are planning to use these results as "evidence" that...

They label "insomnia" and "fatigue" as "psychosocial" factors, without any explanation as to why these should be considered "psychosocial", rather than some other categorization. Then they find that these factors (unsurprisingly) might influence pain and how much it interferes with your life...

To me as an outsider it seems like medicine is too hierarchical and people have to much faith in people in high positions. They don't look at what people are saying, they look at whose saying it, and just automatically assume that people in high positions are knowledgeable about every single...

Do you need to know all the causes and mechanisms behind an illness to treat it effectively, though? From my understanding there are a lot of illnesses that are treated with medication that there are just RCTs showing that it works, without any sound knowledge of the mechanisms behind the...

I'm not so sure about this... I take it your refering to the theory that ME-symptoms are caused by central sensitization here? I've not seen convincing data that this is the main mechanism behind ME-symptoms, although it could certainly be a part of the reason. I find it more plausible that...

What do they mean by "functional pathology"? I thought the definition of functional illnesses were that they lacked a known pathology? Do they mean functional in another sense here?

This is so important! There are many illnesses in psychiatry where it's a given that the mind is heavily involved and is probably part of what caused the problems in the first place. That doesn't necessarily mean that they respond to psychotherapy. So it's quite the leap the CBT-proponents are...