Article in the i: The long Covid ‘treatments’ to avoid, 2024, Clare Wilson with Garner and Busse

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  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    The long Covid ‘treatments’ to avoid
     
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    "Professor Garner believes that his symptoms were caused by an overactive stress response, which disappeared when he stopped expecting that physical activity would make him worse. “It’s incredibly exciting that we’ve got some evidence that these approaches seem to help,” said Professor Garner, who was a co-author on Professor Busse’s paper".

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    Doctors are warning that some desperate patients are getting stuck in a quagmire of pseudoscience that has developed around the condition.

    Then proceeds to promote the worst of it from doctors.
     
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    God I wish Garner would shut the f*** up. He's doing so much harm.
     
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    preach Trish!
     
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    An article about the treatments to avoid and it manages to recommend the two treatments that are the most avoided by patients, precisely because they don't work and keep getting pushed despite zero evidence that they make outcomes any better, which we would know after 5 years. And on the basis of pseudoscience, no less. They even talk about "commonplace therapies" while it's widely acknowledged that there are no treatments for LC, a statement that explicitly looks at those two with a very angry stare.

    Amazing.
     
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    I mean, just look at how ridiculous it is to write this stuff when this was published just last month by UCL.

    Long Covid could cost the economy billions every year
    https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2024/nov/long-covid-could-cost-economy-billions-every-year
    The whole point of modern propaganda is to destroy the very idea that there are trustworthy sources of information, that no one knows any better so you might as well give up because everyone lies. This here is doing exactly this, and the source is the health care systems themselves. Or at least some of them.

    You can't have medical professionals engage in this on such a mass scale without causing catastrophic problems. And, really, you can't! It does cause catastrophic problems. Tens, possibly hundreds, of millions of people have had such absurd experiences that we simply can't trust what medical professionals tell us. About anything. Because they tell those lies on the same basis that they tell real facts, but since we can't tell which is which we have to assume that anything could be another lie. Or not. We generally can't know!

    And this translates into distrust of all experts, even though in my case I do know better and that medicine is uniquely corrupted by this. But this is horrible for so many reasons, not the least of which that it completely destroys most of the claims of credibility from the medical profession. Which is insane, all for absolutely zero benefits.
     
  8. Sparkly Unicorn

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    Garner has the fanaticism of an over zealous convert - it's not normal or helpful!
     
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    The one thing you can never get those who have seen the light to do is shut up about it.
     
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    It's odd that Garner doesn't seem to have noticed that he doesn't have thousands joining him and signing petitions supporting his approach to Long Covid being provided on the NHS. The fact that he alone is quoted repeatedly should give him a clue that his theory is bunk.
     

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