Yes, that's it. Good job transcribing that, I tried to last night but just wasn't able to.
I noticed that about Adam Boulton but you're probably right, and also sometimes they want to cover a news story but don't have time for comments from both on the panel, and this was an unusually extended press review. In view of that, the fact they covered it all is pretty good.
I also got the impression that the host may have not been expecting Lucy's speil.
I'm hoping that I'm allowed to say this but sadly, as someone with a BSc psychology where I wasn't just sucking up stuff and was covering the full breadth of what the subject is rather than just therapy theories, she reminded me of too many that I have met over the years who have got themselves 'jobs' in an area calling itself psych something and just spout sing-song learned things by rote from whoever without even critically analysing what comes out of their mouth.
I've been utterly shocked over the years as I myself have had to strategically shut up to these people wondering how they got themselves the power they had, but I guess the not being a questioning type and being happy to spout unpleasant stuff and blindly pretending to themselves its 'help' is part of that. Some of these people are ones that have been 'paid for' ie not NHS or whatnot, others IAPT, academic.
So she's quite an interesting representation of what I've seen in quite a few sadly if it is something that she believes that she has either had someone she's in with priming her and pointing her to a certain view or she's actively sought out some strange niche ideas on this particular article because those niche places are where she looks for said information. I say niche because we've quite a good idea of the main coverage and facts, and so far what it's one SMC 'responder' who doesn't work in ME/CFS (but is trying to create an alt-diagnosis and insists on calling it CFS/ME as a wind-up anyway).
I haven't read the Reuters one yet and whether that covers the rumour she is putting out of 'people' - which I'd be intrigued which in-crowd she is talking about there - deciding the weapon of inference they are going to use is the idea its somehow needing a replication in a non-developed country. It's very childish. And shocking that she's repeating the 'self-diagnosed' or , as I haven't seen that term in that specificity used elsewhere she has made it up herself as a rumour or someone else has that she is just repeating.
As someone I don't think has done research herself, so certainly wouldn't herself know about how something had to have a study based in Africa 'replicating it' to be true, it's all pretty obscure. I doubt she has ever read many studies that talk about replication from the non-developed world and PACE certainly wasn't as far as I'm aware over the decades it was used to dominate the regime for pwme? Or have a missed a trial done in .. well what would count as the 'non-developed' (don't we call it developing, and aren't there specific categories within that too now) world now anyway?
And it wouldn't have taken her more than a few minutes to have checked that before she said the word 'self-diagnosed' that was the accurate term even if she was wanting to throw shade.
I don't know whether its 'minion-y' or self-kiddery in seeking out with some effort some opposite stuff in order to appease one's set position and cognitive dissonance etc rather than being able to take something that has been coming a long time but debunks their internal beliefs they want to hold onto. But it is sure interesting to watch when not in the usual situation that I've been in
If someone is happy to do that as a broadcaster without checking facts then maybe you would hope that watching become aware how quickly made and unchecked opinions might be used by such people in their other work and yes I'm saying it because even though they get away with it they know they shouldn't be providing misinformation on a disease or piece of research so I don't see that I should assume more care or attention of what they are pushing in a private setting whilst doing psychotherapy shed bothering to check facts before pushing something that might be harmful based on arrogance-ignorance is any more considered or checked than what they will spread via a broadcast.
They seem to have a gameplan in place. I think it will be hard to counter until these findings are built upon sadly.