Earseeds, Acuseeds

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  1. Lou B Lou

    Lou B Lou Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Dragon's Den Entrepreneur claims she cured her ME with ear beads 8pm tonight, January 18th BBC1


    The Star - 16/1/2024
    https://www.thestar.co.uk/business/...Q0C6tydvtHs4LpltzUnrv2CJXn_GTSnFPRAd-Afi-9t8#

    'Acu Seeds: Sheffield health firm founder inspired by chronic fatigue 'cure' to appear on Dragons' Den
    She made a full recovery from ME using diet, acupuncture, Chinese herbs and ‘ear seeds’

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    A Sheffield woman who launched a health business after curing her own chronic fatigue is to appear on Dragons’ Den.

    Giselle Boxer was 26 and working for a top advertising agency when she was diagnosed with M.E (myalgic encephalomyelitis). It left her mostly housebound and unable to walk far, she said. Doctors told her she would never recover, work again or have children.

    But she made a full recovery within 12 months using diet, acupuncture, Chinese herbs and ‘ear seeds’ - tiny beads, based on acupuncture principles, which are applied to the ear to stimulate nerve endings.

    It inspired her to set up Acu Seeds in November 2021. She will appear seeking investment Dragon's Den on BBC One at 8pm on Thursday January 18

    Giselle said she was not allowed to reveal how her pitch was received by the dragons - Sara Davies, Steven Bartlett, Deborah Meaden, Touker Suleyman and Peter Jones - who are famously critical of what they consider to be bad ideas.

    "My own recovery from M.E. through these methods motivated me to create Acu Seeds and offer these benefits to others seeking holistic wellness."

    In the first full financial year, Giselle said she turned over £92,000 in revenue.'





    Dragons Den BBC programme site
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006vq92

    Link for tonight's programme

    'For the first time in Den history the Dragons have company – guest Gary Neville [foootball player] . He joins the fearsome five – Peter Jones, Deborah Meaden, Touker Suleyman, Sara Davies and Steven Bartlett – to fight it out for the best investments in the Den. A former professional footballer pitches his match worn memorabilia business, while an ear acupuncture devotee wants to bring the ancient Chinese practice into the future. A Welsh husband and wife team think they’ve found the best way to view your favourite movie, and a spiritual entrepreneur is convinced his all-natural drink will become more popular than coffee.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001vfsz




    The Acu Seeds business website

    https://acuseeds.co.uk/pages/learn-...49GNZ6StyrMWWzwzewj6BP9CPRwUvuQ7C1JkfT5KOTQTY

    'Acu Seeds was founded by Giselle Boxer, who was diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or M.E at the age of 26. When her GP told her that she would never recover from the condition, Giselle went on a personal healing journey using a holistic approach of diet, supplementation but most importantly Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM). Through the use of acupuncture, Chinese herbs and ear seeds, Giselle is now fully recovered and thriving!

    Giselle is a certified Ear Seed Practitioner and it is her mission to teach ear seeding to other wellness professionals'





    You can contact Dragon's Den on twitter or Facebook
    https://twitter.com/BBCDragonsDen

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0...SzTtBTrXdZxaSnZlcvthogwKD9epvn_SKwK-h63KZjVIU



    Another menace. Is she violating advertising law? Her claim to cure ME on her website is her own testimonial.
     
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  2. JemPD

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    oh no!

    Cue several people telling me, with excitement, that i should try them because they cured this woman on tv.

    For a start i find it hard to believe any UK GP would ever tell anyone they would never recover & never have children. That would be radically, radically against the establishment view and (in their minds) be harmful to tell us that.

    Secondly - she recovered 'within 12 months' .... yeah most people do... with no intervention whatsoever. So like all the other I did 'X' & recovered, its MUCH more likely that she would have recovered anyway & is attributing her healing to this stuff when actually she simply recovered *after* doing those things, rather than *because* of them.
     
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    I've submitted a complaint.
     
  4. Lou B Lou

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    Please contact/complain to Dragons Den with references, links to the previous ASA rulings re 'cures' for ME being advertised.
     
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    In my experience doctors rarely say such things. Even to those who, in their opinion, merit it.

    I couldn't even get my GP to sign a form, for student loans, to say that I was unlikely to work again. The fact I'd been unable to work for over 20 years, at that point, was irrelevant in her eyes, as a 'cure' could be available 'in a year or two'.

    The fact that no research suggested a treatment, or even a convincing model as to what causes ME, what bodily systems would need to be treated, and that even once this was known it could easily take a decade before treatment would be available on the NHS, was also irrelevant.

    So the woman is likely talking total rubbish, making it up.
     
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    The funny thing about that is that it's the same story as the "brain retraining" folks, so it's exactly the same as the entire biopsychosocial approach, just replace a few things that make no difference.

    Congrats on our BPS overlords for being identical to this crap. You deserve it in full.
     
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    She's been reading all the M.E terminology on social media and pitching it on her Instagram account. Ear seeds treating everything from weight loss, migraines, depression et which is what everyone is doing these days on Instagram.

    Her story after being dx with 'moderate' CFS/ME.
    Link

    Are there even doctors actually diagnosing their pts with mild, moderate or severe m.e???
     
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    And she's in The Sun Newspaper - milking the publicity from Dragons Den



    'WOND-EAR-FUL
    Who is Giselle Boxer and what does her company Acu Seeds make?
    She was once told by doctors that she would never work again or have children.'

    '"My own recovery from ME through these methods motivated me to create Acu Seeds and offer these benefits to others seeking holistic wellness."


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/25403342/who-giselle-boxer-acu-seeds-dragons-den/
     
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  14. Lou B Lou

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    It is just sickening and deeply disturbing that the Dragons Den fell for Giselle Boxer's Acu Seeds scam - hook line and sinker! And the viewers did too - they've gone all gooey about the program and about Giselle Boxer's presentation. They thought she was the real deal, not just an accomplished saleswoman.

    That they are scientifically illiterate, have fallen for a commercial scam, have sold millions of disabled ME sufferers down the river - means nothing to them!

    All they cared about was her slick and emotive presentation. They thought she was genuine! Dear god help us.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001vfsz



    @dave30th - please watch this - it's a hugely popular UK TV program that has just done ME sufferers over.


    Giselle Boxer in today's The Sun newspaper:

    "My own recovery from ME through these methods motivated me to create Acu Seeds and offer these benefits to others seeking holistic wellness."

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/25403342/who-giselle-boxer-acu-seeds-dragons-den/
     
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    Its the UK equivalent of Shark Tank
     
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    I cant bring myself to watch it, but is ME presented as a serious condition that Drs said she'd never recover from? (despite being able to be cured by acupressure)
     
  17. Sean

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    She was once told by doctors that she would never work again or have children.

    Want some hard evidence for that. If anything in the UK she was most likely told that she just needed some CBT and GET, and that recovery was possible, with the right attitude, of course.
     
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  18. Lou B Lou

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    Giselle Boxer buys the ear seeds for £3 and sells them for £30. There is a word for that. Daylight robbery. Profitable snake oil. And other words that are censored.
     
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    The heartwarming story of the Dragons' Den hopeful who was first to get an offer from SIX judges: Ex high-flying advertising exec who was left housebound with ME aged 26 who made a full recovery in 12 months

    The heartwarming story of the Dragons' Den hopeful who was first to get an offer from SIX judges: Ex high-flying advertising exec who was left housebound with ME aged 26 who made a full recovery in 12 months with Chinese 'ear seed' therapy (msn.com)


     

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