Neurocovid-19: A clinical neuroscience-based approach to reduce SARS-CoV-2 related mental health sequelae, 2020, Pallanti et al

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  1. Andy

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    Bolding mine. This is the only mention of CFS in the whole publication.
    Open access PDF available at https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022395620309195
     
  2. Mithriel

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    I think they are using Chronic Fatigue Syndrome to mean chronic fatigue. It is difficult to see why psychiatric intervention is needed here anymore than after meningitis or pneumonia. Treating the physical symptoms and social care is surely enough.
     
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    Based on? Wishes are not a proper basis for medical care. No one has yet formally presented reliable evidence of this magical "may" actually turning into the beautiful butterfly everyone imagines it to be, no matter how convincing and colorful the descriptions of its beautifully iridescent wings may be.

    In the specific case of CFS, decades of attempts have reliably demonstrated it not to be the case. Psychosocial ideology does not change with time and is not affected by technology, the only reliable means of progress in medical science so this is already entirely maxed out, further thought experiments will not add anything to it. Decades of failure are the only possible reliable evidence that it does not, in fact, "may" improve outcomes.

    It would be wonderful if magic existed and we could all just wish ourselves free of illness and into eternal youth and vigor but please come back down to this plane of existence where no such things exist and object permanence really ought to be a basic requirement for any profession, please and thank you. You may be enjoying this thing where no one expects any results and you can just spend your days jerking each other around over how wonderful your ideas would be if they were true but this is not how science works and the patients suffering from this mediocrity, on top of illness no less, are very much not enjoying it in the slightest.
     
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    A Hong Kong study found that a percentage of people who had long-term symptoms satisfied CFS criteria (Fukuda, IIRC). A Canadian study also found that a percentage appeared to be CFS-like.
     
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    I’ve just searched the text for “chronic fatigue” and that sentence in the abstract is the only place it appears.
     

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