Poor Reliability between Cochrane Reviewers & Blinded External Reviewers When Applying the Cochrane Risk of Bias Tool in Physical Therapy Trials,2014

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  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Abstract
    Objectives
    To test the inter-rater reliability of the RoB tool applied to Physical Therapy (PT) trials by comparing ratings from Cochrane review authors with those of blinded external reviewers.

    Methods
    Randomized controlled trials (RCTs) in PT were identified by searching the Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews for meta-analysis of PT interventions. RoB assessments were conducted independently by 2 reviewers blinded to the RoB ratings reported in the Cochrane reviews. Data on RoB assessments from Cochrane reviews and other characteristics of reviews and trials were extracted. Consensus assessments between the two reviewers were then compared with the RoB ratings from the Cochrane reviews. Agreement between Cochrane and blinded external reviewers was assessed using weighted kappa (κ).

    Results
    In total, 109 trials included in 17 Cochrane reviews were assessed. Inter-rater reliability on the overall RoB assessment between Cochrane review authors and blinded external reviewers was poor (κ  =  0.02, 95%CI: −0.06, 0.06]). Inter-rater reliability on individual domains of the RoB tool was poor (median κ  = 0.19), ranging from κ  =  −0.04 (“Other bias”) to κ  =  0.62 (“Sequence generation”). There was also no agreement (κ  =  −0.29, 95%CI: −0.81, 0.35]) in the overall RoB assessment at the meta-analysis level.

    Conclusions
    Risk of bias assessments of RCTs using the RoB tool are not consistent across different research groups. Poor agreement was not only demonstrated at the trial level but also at the meta-analysis level. Results have implications for decision making since different recommendations can be reached depending on the group analyzing the evidence. Improved guidelines to consistently apply the RoB tool and revisions to the tool for different health areas are needed.

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0096920
     
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  2. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    This looks like quite an important study. No surprise that RoB is useless but good to see it documented for therapy trials.
     
  3. rvallee

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    Not surprising. Ultimately the biggest flaw with evidence-based medicine is that more often than not, if you change the people you change the outcome. And it applies at every single step, from design, approval, funding, oversight, review, meta-review and so on. Every single one of those steps has arbitrary elements, all of which compound.

    Properly controlled trials are a very useful tool, ones that achieve near perfect control anyway. Almost all trials are poorly controlled, making everything else as arbitrary as what an average legislative committee does. No other discipline makes use of such tools precisely for those reasons. If you don't know what you're measuring, hell if you don't know what to measure, you're not doing science. And only science works, the rest is too biased to be trusted.

    But this was published 9 years ago, and if anything things have gotten worse, including at Cochrane. The trolley keeps on ramming into people simply because no one can decide to end its disastrous run.
     
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  4. Hutan

    Hutan Moderator Staff Member

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    Unfortunately for the relevance of this 2014 study, there is now RoB2
    https://methods.cochrane.org/bias/r...f the Cochrane,design, conduct, and reporting.

    So, it's really easy for a Cochrane person to say, yes, we know the RoB tool wasn't perfect, that's why we made RoB2.
     
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  5. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    depends on the relevance of this line
    "Authors of updates will not be required to switch to the new tool."
    so I'm guessing for a lot of the 'current'/'live' reviews it (ROB2) hasn't been used.

    Really they should repeat the process in this paper to see if it holds up tho.
     
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  6. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Except that the only difference in RoB2 is that it is less rigorous!
     
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    It does sound as though you are right:
    What can we learn from results of the RoB 2 comparison study?
     
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  8. Sean

    Sean Moderator Staff Member

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    whereas the ratings, algorithm, signalling questions and guidance built into the RoB 2 tool made it easier to work through complexity and context.

    So, more wriggle and less rigour?

    (EDIT: Not suggesting that complexity and context don't matter.)
     
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