Primary care providers' use of and attitudes towards placebos: An exploratory focus group study with US physicians, 2020, Bernstein et al

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  1. Andy

    Andy Committee Member

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    Paywall, https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/bjhp.12429
    Sci hub, https://sci-hub.tw/10.1111/bjhp.12429
     
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    It seems too that even if a good placebo effect is achieved for the patient -- because it is a placebo the effects will not be long lasting. So then what?
     
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    There's a reason placebo is the control for nothing in formal trials: it is nothing. It's a measurement error that occurs only about things that can't be measured. Whenever anything is measured it disappears, because that's all it is, an imprecision from being unable to formally measure something, amplified by biased questionnaires.

    One day placebos will be seen as archaic and obsolete, a dumb primitive error of magical thinking that could have been avoided entirely had the scientific method and basic common sense been applied. That day can't come soon enough.

    Meanwhile there's the alternative medicine industry providing the same. Not only is it useless, it is redundant. Grandfathered debunked myths used in practice so late in the modern age is just systemic failure. I applaud those who reject it as disrespectful, it 100% is. More of this, please. Less of those who think it has value, because the only value it has is in allowing for laziness and dereliction of duty. Exactly zero of that, please.
     
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    Any doctor who uses placebo on me without my informed consent will be sacked the instant I find out about it, and a formal complaint made to the relevant medical licencing body (for what that is worth).

    It is a lazy, arrogant, corrupt, and cruel abuse of medical authority.
     

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