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The importance of contextual aspects in the care for patients with functional somatic symptoms, 2020, Gol et al

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic research - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by Dolphin, Apr 15, 2020.

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    Dolphin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S030698772030164X

     
    Dolphin, Apr 15, 2020
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    'We need to lie better to patients.'

    For example:

    Functional somatic symptoms refer to physical symptoms that cannot be (bio) medically explained.

    Oh wait,...

    Contextual research in the field of somatic symptoms has (irrespective whether these symptoms can be medically explained or not),

    In other words, they are right regardless of aetiology.

    Psycho-tyranny.
     
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    Focusing on the style because they can't admit there is no substance. Over a century of the same nonsense running in infinite loops.

    Meanwhile there are literally millions of lives being harmed by the mere existence of this nonsense, stifling research and encouraging systemic discrimination that cause social ostracization, and this is what they waste their time on: how to be better manipulators.

    This is exactly, and I do mean EXACTLY, how scammers, con artists, pyramid schemes and various shady people who want to sell you useless things spend most of their efforts on. Because the manipulation is the point and the main skill being deployed.

    Case in point:
    Literally none of those things are medically relevant. However they are all very relevant to salespeople and especially MLMs. There are actual books on this, on sales techniques and how to turn a mark into a sale. Literally none of those things have any impact whatsoever on how a patient will assess a physician's competence. Get your damn heads out of your collective asses this is beyond embarrassing.

    Also:
    Literally "people are saying". This is a personal opinion generally gesturing to other people with the same opinion as being a valid basis for such a claim.
     
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    con artists

    There are actual books on this, on sales techniques and how to turn a mark into a sale.

    What a lot of people don't understand about con artists is that the con is not in the mechanics of the trick, the pea and thimbles. That's just a distraction.

    The con in a con-job is psychological. It is getting the mark to believe that they can outwit the con artist.
     
    Sean, Apr 16, 2020
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    At least they managed to release it in a journal with a halfway appropriate title: Medical Hypothesis.

    ... no, even not this:

     
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    Let me just correct that bit.

    "Functional somatic symptoms refer to physical symptoms that cannot be have not yet been fully (bio) medically explained."

    Right. To anyone whose intelligence level is even marginally higher than that of a dead potted plant that should be a bit of a red flag, surely? Perhaps it's time to revisit the definition, methods & measures used to evaluate effectiveness? If it isn't benefiting patients then there simply isn't any point. Here's an idea, why not simply ask the patient if they believe the treatment is effective?

    Where I come from a stranger being overly friendly in this way would find themselves in a world of hurt. You might want to reconsider that.
     
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