UK: Reading Well books (formerly Books on Prescription): should books based on the deconditioning model of ME/CFS still be included?

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  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    https://reading-well.org.uk/

    this was the list of books for LTC in 2020
    https://tra-resources.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/entries/document/2311/RWLTC_booklist_overview.pdf

    which included Chalder and Burgess' book
    "Overcoming Chronic Fatigue"
    and advertises itself as
    A Books on Prescription Title

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    https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Overcoming_Chronic_Fatigue.html?id=gaCeBAAAQBAJ&source=kp_cover&redir_esc=y

    and was until very recently recommended reading on most NHS websites.

    who decides which books are on the list?

    @adambeyoncelowe

     
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    Not all of these books can be summarized as "Go to the gym " books, but certainly some of them can.
     
  3. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I've changed the link from Amazon (which just turned into a general link for Amazon rather than the actual link to the book reviews).
    Google books (the 'new link' makes quite a big chunk of the beginning of the book available to read.)

    Basically its the usual 'boom and bust'/deconditioning stuff and this;

     
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    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    and this
    given the changes in the guidelines this book should not be officially sanctioned reading by the health service.

    eta: it also perpetuates the ME/CFS = chronic fatigue issue.
     
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    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    still recommended by:
    Royal Free
    https://www.royalfree.nhs.uk/services/fatigue-service
    South Tees NHS

    https://www.southtees.nhs.uk/servic...hronic-fatigue-syndrome-me/patient-resources/

    approved iapt reading
    https://www.ppn.nhs.uk/resources/ap...tient-materials-for-long-term-conditions/file

    Northern Care Alliance NHS
    https://www.northerncarealliance.nh...rome?q=/our-services/chronic-fatigue-syndrome

    there are many more.
     
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    The book is also included on the Reading Well book list for Mental health as well as
    there is also this book
    • Katharine Rimes and Trudie Chalder (2015). Overcoming Chronic fatigue in young people: A cognitive behavioural self-help guide.
    which is recommended reading by various children CF services eg Sheffield

    I don't know about the contents but suspect it is more of the same.
     
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  7. Ash

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    Grim.
    What a terrible shame.
     
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  8. adambeyoncelowe

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    The clinics probably draw up their own lists? I can imagine someone did a list for BACME years ago and made sure all their mates were on it. Then it got passed around until it became the standard.
     
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    Yeah, that seems to be how it’s done,
     
  10. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    No that's not how it's done.

    See this info sheet
    https://tra-resources.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/entries/document/4503/Reading_Well_fact_sheet.pdf

    (linked to here : https://reading-well.org.uk/resources/4503)

     
  11. dratalanta

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    "stakeholder consultation... expert advice... professional recommendations" - sounds quite a lot like what Adam was suggesting?

    Can Charles Shepherd write to Reading Well to point out that their current list of titles includes "self-help interventions" which are not "recommended within National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) guidelines"?

    Overcoming chronic fatigue: a self-help guide using cognitive behavioural techniques
    seems like a straightforward contradiction of the guidelines in the title alone: "Explain... that it [CBT] may help them [patients] manage their symptoms but it is not curative."
     
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