Warning over patients left on antidepressants for decades

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  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Warning over patients left on antidepressants for decades

    (last part is quite ironic given who Clare Geradas husband is!)
     
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    In case anyone doesn't know, her husband is notorious ME-dismissing Professor Sir Simon Wesseley.
     
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    Oh, yeah, that ought do it. Easy peasy. When all you have are bad options because the systems are utterly dysfunctional and incapable of meeting basic demand and would rather keep doing the same copy-paste junk indefinitely, the answer is so simple: just do more psychobehavioral pseudoscience. It solves nothing at all, but where you had one problem now you have two!

    A delusional model built on con artistry has long been unsustainable, but all they can think of is more of the same junk, which no doubt would be in addition to the other past junk that was built largely through con artistry.

    Just smash the "MORE BIOPSYCHOSOCIAL" button a few times, that'll fix nothing, but apparently it feels comforting, or whatever.

    Both my parents take ADs. So do two of my aunts. I think my sister, too. I think there are at least a couple in my family, too. None of them is for 'depression'. Not a single one of them. Because ADs have been used as a 'universal' pill for decades, and these fools' solution is to use the other universal fake thing. This is what a corrupt "Imagine a world"-based system leads to: chaos, failure, and apparently it makes some people feel good about the whole thing. And they will change nothing at all, as they are incapable of learning anything because they can't ever even admit to a single mistake.
     
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    ‘Treatment which involves some social engagement, like group counselling or therapy, would be great for these patients.

    It is telling that when suggesting social engagement all she can come up with is formalised 'therapy'. Not construct a society that helps the elderly (and everybody else) find an appropriate level of non-clinical social engagement, like hobbies, social groups, better public spaces, better public transport to get around, enough resources to meaningfully engage in all of that. Etc.

    As usual Gerada is engaged in nothing more than drumming up business for her own tribe and protecting her own ego from having to face up to appalling damage she and they have inflicted on this world.
     
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    Yup. For people who claim to work holistically, they literally cannot think about anything that doesn't happen outside of a clinic run by clinicians or therapists. This biopsychosocial approach is even less holistic than even old time medicine.

    Because all those things are not health care. They would not be managed by health care professionals. They are socioeconomic programs and policies that require a global outlook at what health is and what is the function of a society in the well-being of their citizens.

    But they have a hammer, and that hammer wants to get paid.
     
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    Well, obviously people shouldn’t be on antidepressants. I’m not saying depression isn’t real, but you do find that it’s people who think they’re depressed that take them. If I feel a bit down I go out for a walk. I don’t wallow in it and perpetuate it. Also, young people are inventing mental health problems to sound “cool” on the internet.

    So you see, Dr Gerada and husband are in full agreement: people need to stop having shit life syndrome and the NHS should stop giving out expensive pills and treatment. Obviously /s
     

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