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Good question, that's very weird to me

Wow Kardia IS really cool! I didn`t know there was the technology for programs to read EKGs. I can understand ur elation Dont take my word for it, actually i think clotting is only a concern with atrial fibrillation because of reduced output

Hey i get ya its a tough call to make. I guess it could be worthwhile to assess your risk for clotting, thats the main concern as far as i understand when it goes on a long time! Grats on catching it on a recording:) Its hard to do when its random..

@ahimsa thanks for the answer:) I believe i read that its pretty common that they last longer the longer they are left untreated (with e.g ablation or meds). The ones I got lasted from 30 sec to 1 min i dont remember exactly was pretty stressed out :p "I thought that the words rare/sporadic...

Coincidentally that girl is becoming a LP-practitioner.. Blatant scam

I had these when i was jogging with ME, and therefore did a holter which confirmed them. Apparently its not uncommon in ME-patients: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5772628/

I was hoping u would chime in! That makes sense, I didn`t even know foetuses had working immune systems. So the t-cell shift is not proven u say, or if it is its happening for some other reason? A question that came to mind.. Why dont the immune system of the mother disrupt the foetus...

Yea it is what happens apparently https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5025626/

Very interesting research Even though it would be hard for me to get pregnant

That`s a terribly long time.. Two lives put on hold.. So much respect for them both.

Yes.. Haha Ive had a worsening this summer after gradual exercise, and I have ended up doing whatever makes me feel bad twice because my thinking is like "there is NO way im going to bed unable to finish the dishes", so I go back to do it only to get PEM again.

Thanks @borko2100 @Wonko @TigerLilea! Yea my GP said she looked it up and it was assumed to be normal. I just thought it was early when ive just turned 29 to have a dehydrated and DEGENERATIVE back :D Well, well.. At least I cant do much walking anyway.. I was curious anyway after all this...

Hahaha as u can see I am slightly brain fogged when I wake up! Goodness me

Thanks for the link! Yea its funny its called flee or flight-response because i have been unable to do anything else than plant my body on the floor when I get these surges. I would have been eaten by dinosaurs so easily back in the day.. Interesting about the beta blockers, and nice that u...

Yea ive decided I have to try to "aggressively rest" (funny term), which I am notoriously bad at. Every time i fail at doing something, I will try doing it again straight after out of annoyance.. Ive also forced myself to travel to band practice, which is kind of ridic to do in a period like...

I guess i could ask for another holter test, although I dont think its a heart issue it might be a place to start i guess! Thanks

Hey! Yea I`m male. I did actually check blood adrenaline levels back in 2014 cause i was having similar episodes when I first got sick. They were normal.. I think that the ME is causing this somehow, cause they happen when my ME is bad. But I have no idea how.. I read that with adrenal tumors...

Thanks for sharing, and i could not agree more @Snowdrop! The episodes are so intense and out of the blue that I cant understand how my thinking contributed to it. Obviously your train of thought can lead to phobias etc, but I dont think u can think yourself into having these attacks. It just...

Yea we don't really know what to do. I`m legit clueless as to why this is happening I just wanna feel like shit again.. :rofl:

@Daisy That sounds similar! I dont have high bpm when standing, but I do get higher blood pressure upright (both kinda does the same thing?). Keep me posted on what they tell u:)