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How did they arrive at this magic figure? If I attempted to do 30 mins exercise it would probably finish me off! Does this happen with everything medical now; seems harmless <<shrug>> Best guess is not evidence

Thanks for looking into this Trish You can take screenshots (and rolling screenshot for long pages) of apps on your phone and use Google lens in Google photos to copy text to paste to another document or a post here. I also use voice typing on my phone and laptop. Hope this helps

Really? I did not know that. That is disappointing as I keep being pointed to groups hosted on there and had hopes for some decent non-ME conversations.

Thank you for your summary, clarification and investigations @Trish . This is all extremely opaque and very concerning.

It feels like we are in a nightmare endless loop of fighting the same nonsense a certain person started in an endless, pointless death spiral - it never goes away, they keep saying the same thing over and over again because this time it will work, this time they will get the answer they want and...

I suspect they are counting on none of us having the energy, and who would listen anyway..?! This stuff is all out in the world and has made zero difference. They have so effectively gas lit us and poisoned the well that a) it sounds like an insane conspiracy theory and b) we can be dismissed...

Quite literally; the PROMS project links back to a paper published in 2013 which I understand links back to another arm of the original PACE project. I feel this is bigger than even this discussion and the info should be passed to George Monbiot.

Sorry! Didn't read this properly . Thanks for paying proper attention Trish :)

It was all moved to one thread: https://www.s4me.info/threads/the-elaros-nhs-digital-system-for-patient-clinician-digital-sharing-questionnaire-data-includes-yorkshire-rehab-scale-and-open-oh-app.39324/

Thank you for this post @Trish . You have joined a lot of dots that I had spotted and was struggling to make sense of. This is extremely concerning indeed. I also fear that any concerns raised will be attributed to us being "anti-recovery activists" and dismissed. Edited for spelling errors

ELAROS have replied to the comments on the MEA Facebook post: [MEDIA=facebook]1163775829109781[/MEDIA] And directly to one person's concerns, saying that the DWP will have no access to data, they are merely a funder.. MEA, particularly Dr S, are very insistent that MEA are not endorsing this...

"supporting" is doing a lot of very interesting work here And there you have it...

Much like the infected blood scandal, the post office scandal - which had the justice system involved as people went to prison, Hillsborough, which had the police and mainstream media complicit. It is all based on people's need to disbelieve other people's reality and think themselves superior...

1. Where did it go? 2. What treatments/outcomes do you have to show for this investment? 3. covid is not "over" so why are the clinics being closed / defunded? Maybe sound less pleased with yourselves when you have achieved the square root of nothing and wasted £314 million doing it Full...

Isn't this deprogramming?

It wasn't entirely wasted; I found it incredibly helpful and learned things :)

Has this one been shared yet: https://www.bmj.com/content/389/bmj.r977/rr-19 Lots to like, but particularly: "The use of biomedical terminology to repackage psychosocial models - referred to in rhetorical studies as “concept laundering” - is another red flag. Referring to “dysregulation”...

Thank you :)

It would be interesting to repeat that back to your MP and say this is what you promised in your manifesto and is the opposite; explain what happened But you said she hadn't responded and I suspect you will get the stock "things were worse than we anticipated" response even if you did.

This is very well put. Would you mind if I quoted it to my MP and in my green paper response? One of our group has an MP meeting I have offered to right a briefing for, and this would be very helpful indeed.