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:D True, dat. Depends on the forum and what is at stake. They will squirm and sweat a lot more in a formal inquiry that has the legal teeth to punish them. Sophistry and chutzpah only get one so far. There is still the little matter of reality to deal with. You can't cover up everything...

All this talk from these clowns of deconditioning, and yet in the three decades they have been active in this field they either never properly tested for it or didn't listen to the results if they did test for it. Given its critical central role in their model, then its (alleged) existence and...

Just worth repeating. Take it from a grizzled old timer in this game, we have come a long long way since the dark days of the 80s and early 90s, especially over the last 2-3 years. Still a long way to go, and never say never, but I think we are past the point of no return.

Dear Prof Sharpe Could you please supply the references cited in the PACE papers for this latest unicorn farting fairy floss rainbows claim. Yours, etc A Mere Patient

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I think it is worth it for that. The best way to take somebody down is usually with their own words and actions. It is what will eventually do Wessely in, his decades long incontrovertible trail of pronouncements on the public record. ------------------ To be sure his words do not get...

Was I wrong? Are there any crocodiles on Sesame Street? ;)

Reality always wins in the long run. Always. Unfortunately deniers can wreak massive carnage in the meantime. :(

Yes, he is, and I don't think he is doing himself and his reputation any favours with his tweeting. So keep right at it, Mike. :thumbup:

Biopsychosocial would be a hot contender.

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Two part question: 1. Ask if he agrees with the following statement by his close colleagues (one of whom is a co-primary investigator on PACE): 2. If the answer is no, then ask if increasing activity capacity and levels back to normal is not the primary goal (i.e. the definition of a...

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” Upton Sinclair. Salary, or ego, status, power, freedom from accountability, etc.

There are no crocodiles on Sesame Street.

#incompetencekills #arrogancekills #psychogenicspeculationkills

Wow. That's not good. :grumpy:

Oops. I meant strategist. :oops: :rolleyes:

Good point, @strategist. The bias is built in from the start.

Which, among other things, would require access to the full (anonymised) data set. So PACE will be releasing that without delay? Just asking for a dead friend.

There has been an unholy confluence of interests between psychs, the rest of medicine, and the political and economic elite. A disturbing combination of mutual back scratch, arse cover, and circle jerk. All for the good of us ungrateful bloody peasants, of course.