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The first thing that pops into my mind is food poisoning. Is there any chance that any of those things you ate might have been harboring bacteria?

@RuthT - How long is the Camino de Santiago? Do you know how long it takes the average actual walker to cover it?

@Ron, thank-you so much for taking part in this study. :emoji_cake: :emoji_tea: :hug:

@Graham will want to know about this! ;) Isn't this the same hospital that imprisoned that poor girl a few years ago.

I use caffeine in the form of dark chocolate and black tea in the morning, then green tea in the afternoon. I don't like coffee. Black tea in the afternoon is enough to interfere with my sleep.

Menopause hit me in my 40s. I put early 40s, but I wouldn't swear by that. My doctors thought it was early. I had never had a child or missed a period for any reason. During perimenopause, they came more frequently. I figured I had had as many periods as anyone else by the time I hit menopause...

Not at all! :whistle:

I get tired of the word fatigue. I think "least energetic physically and mentally" is a good way to put it.

That is the first time I have heard of someone getting a hangover from watching cat. :emoji_cat: :D

What kind of CFS. All sorts of things are called CFS. Why don't they want to cure people? Are you allowed to call TRIPE? I thought that was arewenearlythereyet's provenance. I definitely do not want to waste time on that drivel! :banghead: Yes, there is no 'f' in s##t. How absurd!

:eek: :nailbiting:

Then she got PEM. Is there such a thing as a crazy rabbit lady?

I had a pet rabbit, Tiffia, when I was a child. He was an outside rabbit. He had a bed, food bowl, water bowl, and salt 'block' in the corner of a shed. The other half of the shed was the chicken shed. Every morning we let out the chickens and the rabbit. Every evening we shut up the chickens...

As a religious person, this sort of abuse of religion also angers me.

Wow, that is an amazing miracle. :rolleyes: But seriously, isn't that illegal?

All of the red endpoints are for ME patients, all of the blue endpoints are for controls.

It seems clear that he had a bunch of bad medical practitioners. [I refuse to call the doctors.]

I thought magnesium helped with sleep. There is a product called Magnesium Kalm that is supposed to be taken at bedtime.

Unfortunately, that can sometimes be the result for the patient.

Maybe it was meant to be a joke. That is just beyond bizarre.