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Maybe they got behind the Eight-Ball?

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Not surprising Baraniuk oversaw this given his historical overlapping emphasis. I kind of like that he doesn't hold back when he labels ME/CFS and GWS "diseases of the brain." He joins Natelson in this regard, if I recall correctly. I personally would have preferred if he opined "diseases that...

We do not know the pathology of Alzheimer's. We know some of the signs, but nothing is universal except dementia. I do not need to bend words. But others will bend ours if we leave open the door, I fear.

I would suggest we have not definitively established the pathology for Alzheimer's or MS. In addition, this leaves some gaping holes. For instance, is a gambling addiction then not a disease? Are channelopathies without genetic markers not considered diseases? I can go on. If we leave an...

@Barry, "medical condition" or even "underlying condition" would include deconditioning and strained muscles and hang nails. Also, it seems like we are avoiding calling a spade a spade due to political sensitivity - and to a certain extent, medical ambiguity at least in terms of causation. I...

@Peter Trewhitt , I like most of what you have suggested just above, but I'm a bit concerned at the tendency to write "medical condition" or "underlying condition" instead of disease. I'm not sure you say disease even once. Perhaps this is deliberate, but if so, I'd advise you rethink that.

A gent. :) Willy B seemed to enjoy word play as well. It was tempting to write off some of his "wording" to Parkinson's, but I don't know.

Barbour and Benach's title, @Alvin , but I strongly suspect they are playing on the Willy Burgdorfer double entendre of Swiss Agent, which he used to advance the concept of a rogue rickettsial pathogen, derived from a Swiss Rickettsia species, as the cause of Lyme, while he, by some accounts...

@chrisb, if one were to take the time to make a dot every time there has been something completely new unearthed in the Bb saga, or another inconsistency surface, or a bizarre coincidence....and then try to connect all those dots into a line, that line likely would stretch...well, we're not...

Sorry. Nothing more than the old down and dirty rule of thumb for just about everything , ie, theory really only applies to 80% of people, or only 80% of people will respond. Pretty good maxim in marketing, so figure human nature variables. Not at all scientific.

Yep, I'm hypothyroidal. I also have Vit D deficiency. I also have a folate defciency. And as you rightfully point out, the entire range thing is an unfolding debacle for those that fall outside the 80-20 rule. Look at our body temps - for many with ME/CFS that is - we are often well below...

How is this any different than someone with low Vit D values eating Vit D supplements to leverage their values? I'm not really sure taking the supplement (B12 or Vit D) matters the way some might hope or theorize, but perhaps more importantly, I would look at both deficiencies as possible...

Yes, test the tissue, not the blood. Bb has a tropism for tissue. It does not like blood. Many case studies over the years which demonstrate Bb in tissue - cardiac tissue, brain tissue, etc. But still indirect methods prevail. One of the reasons is that many of these tissue samplings are...

I would chalk it up to a mistake. I suspect he was alluding to arthropod diseases in general, e.g. rickettsia, and something got edited out. There is no way Lyme was more prevalent in Utah than the NorthEast US. Not sure I scapularis even existed in Utah back then.

Dark field microscopy is what he used, I think. To this day dark field microscopy is frowned upon relative to its use in identifying spirochetes. Ironic.

Agreed.

No, it is not.

Pillar! Yep. Well done!

Maybe so. What about Ft. Detrick and the eight-ball? And how could both of these researchers not allude, by name, to the Swiss Agent given that, according to Newby and that other guy whose name I forget, it was considered to be the causative agent of Lyme, or at least it was going to be...