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Logical thinkers as those named above are not the problem, as far as I know the people named above. Its the other "ancient Greeks" who will be present on any show of hands.

I might add in the fact that the PACE trial almost seems untouchable itself sitting comfortably within the Lancet and is hardly even being discussed here in terms of the Lancet and a retraction and the NICE review is next year.

Taking into account this post and rvallees post above about disingenuous presenting potential to NICE it seems to come down to the same notion of ancient Greek democracy whereby whoever brings the most amount of mates along with them is the winner. That is the problem in essence especially as...

I beg to differ, you are dressed up posing as some kind of a pink bear with a rainbow across your chest.

I would feel much more assured of that if the review had been properly retracted and not this weird limbo non committal status that it lies in now. The problem with assuming it cannot be presented to NICE as a meaningful opinion has already a contradictory precedent set by the HRA who cited...

Are we really getting close to that with Cochrane? It seems its gone silent over there, the review hasn't actually been withdrawn despite promising to do so and last we heard Larun was getting to seemingly readmit continuously despite failing to do so to the required standard. It appears also...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47443955 Disabled pensioners will no longer face "unnecessary" repeat assessments to continue receiving benefits, the work and pensions secretary will announce. From this spring, about 270,000 people will not have personal independence payments (PIPs) regularly...

I wonder if they admitted to being unable to find evidence of perfectionism in the parents would they just conclude the perfectionism must lie within the grandparents, or perhaps the aunts and uncles, or maybe their friends, or someone their friends knew, or perhaps the bloke from the local chip...

Can someone ask Esther on twitter who to send the FOI as she should know which agency holds this information?

The quickest way to find out who has these documents would be to ask Crawley herself who has them. It would be fascinating to have her reply that she doesn't know. Of course the request cant come from David Tuller as that would be "harassment". :rolleyes:

Here is the newsnight piece on the Lancets part in this issue. The audio is not great as I recorded it from my laptop directly.

@dave30th Just watched BBC Newsnight piece on the Lancet apparently knowing about flawed data in one of their publications leading to death in medical practice. Norman Lamb MP has written to the Lancet and claims to be confused by their lack of action despite the publishers of the paper...

Surely we already know the WHOLE WORLD is a stage?

Yes it basically means they have appointed themselves as the referees whilst playing on the opposing teams at the same time with the whistles poised in their mouths running around football fields looking for the most skilful players to give red cards to.

Interesting that, I have just had a notice from TfL to tell me that if i drive my car into certain areas of London I will be liable for an emission charge of £12.50 a day. My car is diesel and and gets rewarded with the low road tax rate on the basis that it has exceptional fuel consumption and...

My guess would be that all agencies, publications, reviewers and parties involved are holding out on the basis that, "some other group thinks PACE is great so we will just use that as our get out". No one wants to take on the basic premise for themselves partly because they may have some...

Diesel engines are dangerous to the oil industry and government coffers as currently they often deliver twice the mileage per litre compared to petrol. I really wonder if this is playing a part in the demonisation of diesel cars.

Yes but we are also living in a world where the government is now telling us they will decide what "fake news" is, that they will soon be regulating it and on top of that coming down on people who are decided by them to be the purveyors of fake news. At the same time we are being told that the...

How come we seem to be living more and more in a post truth society all around the world then?

Lets not forget the Lancet, the BMJ, the HRA, Cochrane, the Times and other newspapers and many other influential groups have sided with Sharpe and the PACE team. Even the state has given Wessely a knighthood and other groups have given out faux awards too. Ill stick my neck out here and say...