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I was actually going to send them a link to my whole post but I am not that social media savvy. If some one can link them to my whole post in full they have my permission.

FFS! why use Mayo Clinic as a wishy washy source when officially the WHO ICD, the DOH, the DWP, CDC etc etc list ME officially as a neurological disease. They have also missed the point that the whole article relied on ME being a psychosomatic illness in order to justify the rest of the...

Now there's a question the HRA should have posed to themselves.

In a model? Oh dear. We believe in a model, not scientific then is it. We got this model and we are desperately waiting to find the patients to fit it. We have no proof so we in this religion are stuck in the belief of our model stage. To back up our belief we will now go away and write our...

You "cant say it" because you believe it is not a "company". You give your consent to the claim. That's how the illusion works. I understand the claim of the difference between a private company and a state interest but its fictional. Its a much bigger discussion not worth having on an ME forum.

What do they think the DWP is? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Insurance The PACE study was publised on 27th Feb 2011. On the subject of conflicts interest here is the DWP response to a 2nd March 2011 FOI on why they part funded the PACE trial...

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I think I know this girl she doesn't have ice in it because she doesn't want to dilute it.

No one is claiming the surveys are scientific proofs of moderate harm for some people etc unlike in the case wherby AfME are claiming that PACE is a scientific claim of moderate benefit for some.

Its fairly obvious now that the HRA review was written by people within the BPS crowd. Secondly one saving grace is that Sharpe is bringing light to the whole issue with his ingenious twitter account with his own goal scoring. The HRA was still hot of the press when he stared tweeting about it...

@Action for M.E. Does the PACE trial data scientifically support this statement from Sonia Chowhury..... Yes, no or is this statement based on some other scientific evidence? How did this statement become "our view" as quoted by Sonia. If it is based on some other scientific evidence please...

My honest opinion is it will go the same way as the HRA PACE investigation. They will clear themselves as they did for the PACE one. Then they will use that as evidence that the whole saga has lived up to the most amount scrutiny ever and been shown to be sound. Then they will be able to push...

Ah I get how this works now that I realise the Bristol investigation was requested by the HRA. Bristol didn't care to investigate themselves and their star grant obtainer because they didn't want to look beneath the covers until HRA come along and tell them to effectively investigate themselves...

It does seem conveniently timed that the expected hit piece on David Tuller is in the works alongside this fake response about the PACE trial that seems to be living in a denial cocoon.

Is that true considering the latest state of affairs under review at Cochrane?

What they are trying to say was the only reason they didn't release data was to protect patient confidentiality, and because of "vexatious requests" and all the other usual crap that White and co tried to pull. The whole thing reads like they just went and asked White about all of this and then...

Its rather confusing, which PACE study do they think carries the real results? The revised protocol study where they claimed modest recovery rates or the original protocol that didn't change the definition of recovery to being ill and recovered at the same time which allowed the revised...

Oh look here comes yet another bus for AfME to throw us under.

I'm not sure there's is even any evidence of that. Any so called evidence is highly likely to be correlation between a condition that is self resolving anyway but doing some hocus pocus on the subject anyway. Kind of like doing reiki on someone on the 6th day of a bout of the flu and watching...

I think chicken whatever it is now is so far removed from being chicken it is too late anyway to worry about it getting any worse. Just stick some breadcrumbs on it and hope for the best!