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Very important subject, treated with due deference by @Neuro_Skeptic ;)

:rofl: Well, what else could he say.

https://www.wired.com/story/the-19th-century-crank-who-tried-to-tell-us-about-the-microbiome

https://amp.theguardian.com/higher-education-network/2018/jun/15/is-competition-driving-innovation-or-damaging-scientific-research

The parliament tv site now has a link for the live video of the debate on thursday, https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/3d63c39d-18f3-4cd7-8509-c91785dced98

https://www.actionforme.org.uk/news/experiences-of-m.e.-featured-in-dear-chronic-illness/ Spoonie survival kit website, https://www.spooniesurvivalkits.com/2018/04/26/dear-chronic-illness-our-very-own-book-release/

http://www.meassociation.org.uk/2018/06/lets-talk-social-care-services-for-people-with-m-e-and-those-who-take-care-of-them-15-june-2018/

Carol Monaghan got looped into this part of the conversation (posting for those not on twitter who might be interested),

Mike Godwin is still tweeting extensively on the topic of PACE and ME. @Robert 1973 is doing a fantastic job - congrats on the song retweet, and thanks to @Mike Godwin for that,

Sharpe retweeted this. Presumably he didn't actually read the quote from the forum, since it doesn't say what cfsresearch claims. In fact, bit of an own goal.

Very interesting sounding project from Jarred Younger, http://www.meresearch.org.uk/our-research/ongoing-studies/immune-cell-infiltration/

:laugh: You don't. You so don't. You really haven't got the hang of this psychosocial research stuff at all. Just caught up on this thread and can't stop laughing, for so many reasons. Thanks for the amusement @Barry, @TiredSam and all :)

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/6/13/17449118/stanford-prison-experiment-fraud-psychology-replication

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/hot-planet/why-i-wont-debate-science/

Except psychologists and psychiatrists should presumably be quite good at putting themselves in the other person's shoes, and at empathy. Where are they without theory of mind, after all?

Meanwhile, And, Sharpe has totally abrogated responsibility. I'd like to believe that it is unintentional idiocy, incompetence and error that is behind this whole mess, but I'm afraid I cannot believe that Sharpe is as clueless as he is asserting here.

Eta, last pair of comments

Hanlon et al, 2018 Not specifically on ME, but CFS comes out as the condition second most strongly associated with frailty, Table 1 Frailty criteria Figure 2 Frailty or pre-frailty for individual long-term conditions adjusted for age, sex, socioeconomic status, smoking status, and...

https://jaxmecfs.com/2018/06/14/scientist-spotlight-alison-motsinger-reif-ph-d