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Are you kidding? People have been misdiagnosed with more things instead of ME then we could shake a stick at. I bet if anyone collected a list it would be Yuge!

Indeed though if we get an ME treatment it should treat the downstream symptoms as well. I was thinking about this earlier today, how does ME cause these sleep issues, i wish we knew but if i were dishing out funds the would go towards ME disease mechanism and developing drug treatments for it

They can prescribe all they want, i'm not going t o take any of them, my sleep abnormalities are clearly ME related, as the ME gets wore the circadian rhythm gets worse in lockstep. Either its the coincidence of the millennium or A is causing B. I get where they are coming from, their arsenal is...

You can say that again, i visited a sleep neurologist today, has no experience with ME induced circadian rhythm changes, wanted to give me a stimulant plus sleeping pill for the altered sleep patterns...

That isn't what i am referring to, what i was talking about is ways to convince people to donate to charities, from matching donations to celebrity endorsements to fundraising dinners there are countless organizations trying countless ways to convince people to donate money to a cause.

This is not unusual behaviour, nor is it unethical or illegal, its a charity soliciting donations. Many charities have shticks, from sending trinkets and asking for donations (a local hospital sends blank christmas cards with a donation request) to providing services and asking for donations (In...

Indeed, the science of persuasion is very complex. I could spend a weeks worth of brain power going into it here but suffice it to say facts change no ideologue's mind. In the end we need a disease mechanism or ideally treatment to change things, not to say we should not fight for our lives but...

Reality deniers are not interested in learning about reality, they are interested in finding new ways to deny it and better ways to convert others to denial.

Bear in mind this is a public thread, and i'll bet money they are reading our posts.

Its found in free range animal meat (more expensive then conventional factory farmed meat) or you can eat Natto which is a Japanese fermented soybeans which to many have an unpleasant taste (this is MK7). Some types of cheese also have MK7. MK4 is found in a few other foods but the high...

I agree with @Amw66 that we should be careful with using the legal system right now because it could bite us in the arse That said as i argued in another thread recently if we had a treatment or disease mechanism it would benefit our case immensely...

Missed that, sorry

Yikes, i did not know about this. I edited this to say likely since i don't know of any research actually proving this one. Its also possible my memory is playing tricks on me and it has been proven. Worth googling.

You don't need to buy it, just use Vitamin D and K2. I'm not even sure if you take it orally if the body will absorb it. If you can get sunlight then you don't need supplemental Vitamin D and K2 is not too pricey in MK7 form which will activate it. MK4 does more in humans but is pricier but not...

Interesting but MK4 is found at low levels in many tests done on humans especially vegetarians who presumably eat more vegetables and no meat. Natto and some MK7 containing cheeses being an exception. Also if it were abundantly converted in the human body the studies that found uncarboxylated...

The amount spent on K2 research may be similar or only slightly more then whats been spent on ME research so as a consequence we don't know all that much about it but we have several insights and much unverified research and many unanswered or only partially explored questions. Several of its...

From what i understand humans don't convert K1 to K2 except in lactating women its done by the breasts (and this K2 is not available for use by the mother). There have been some theories that the bacteria in the gut may do some conversion but from what i recall its not been proven and if it is...

K2 is found in meat that is free range and not factory farmed. The animal's bodies convert K1 from green leafy plants into K2.

Exactly and those who claimed to land on it are lying. There are even documentaries "proving" this

So by denying reality evidence thats concrete does not exist... If i deny the Moon exists it certainly does not make it disappear even if it can't be seen for days, though politically denial is a popular position...