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Blaming patients for being anti science and malicious and stupid Its about the playbook for reality deniers and it usually works out for them. Eventually the tide turns...

Merged thread https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/i-m-33-and-have-been-living-in-aged-care-for-eight-years-20181016-p509ul.html

Is this being used as a guise to remove anything except CBT/GET or is it actually progress where they realize we have a real condition. I would be shocked if its because they realize we have an immune related condition. Also just because research is old does not man its bad, there is a human...

I understand, its a general question to anyone who knows Have you participated on any of these calls before?

I registered and logged in and only see this So we have to e-mail and request to join the call? So what was the logging in about?

They are not interested in knowing that treatment resistance is because the treatments are based on flawed theories which is why they work poorly. If the real cause of ulcers had not been determined not so long ago they would be talking about its treatment resistance...

I can't defend the guy because i know little about him or what he does. I do recall reading somewhere that he said ME and CFS are different things, which makes little sense but without an explanation of what that means i have no idea what to say though i don't think this is correct I have an...

There is a new one from earlier this year or late last year, it apparently caught the interest of a research team who decided to do a study based on its content using QEEG which i participated in a few months back (results late next year).

I see, what does it say? Is it the one he released recently?

He has written a book. I have not read it so i can't attest to its content or accuracy. I had a spect scan done by a dementia neurologist a few years back. I even got a copy of the images though they mean nothing to my untrained eye.

Who are these people and is it something where we tell them what we think or ask questions or are they just broadcasting their thoughts like a podcast?

Exactly this. They think that collaborating with reality denial is somehow linked to a greater good.

I didn't know its already been slammed having not heard of it till this thread but as soon as i read it i thought how can such disparate molecules all cause the same thing. Gut bacteria are not homogeneous. Its like those who believe natural is good and artificial is bad, thats simplistic stupidity.

Of course

Dear god, withhold treatment and tell people their illness doesn't exist while they keep deteriorating Who is protecting these people from a medical ethics hearing?

Interesting, thanks for explaining

Dr Davis knows how to pick good researchers.

Did it successfully treat symptoms?

Does this mean that 256 tests need to be done to differentiate ME from controls or one molecule that has 256 parts in it?

Your welcome, here is a direct link http s://livestream(dot)com/accounts/1973198/ME-CFS-2018