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One could be excused for wondering if such definitions are convenient straw men, deliberately constructed to be easy to take down with superficial statistical arguments, without actually revealing much about the real underlying problem/s.

A bit of 'nudging', one might even say. :whistle:

I wonder who is advising them to go down this path?

This is the outcome of decades of the BPS approach. They have refined a pseudo-scientific methodology that only delivers the carefully tailored correlations they want, by deliberately and systematically discarding, diluting, or downplaying outcome measures and trial designs that might test for...

If exercise was going to fix it, or even just help significantly alleviate it, that would have been clear decades ago.

That is all ye need know.

Based on our findings, we recommend low-intensity, sub-symptom aerobic exercise to treat long COVID. o_O

There is one hell of a story to be told here. Just not the one that mainstream journalism is currently telling, to the extent that it is telling any story about it.

"The model is thus vague, all-inclusive, and lacks meaningful scientific content. Essentially the BPSM states a truism about illness." It explains everything, and hence nothing. It lacks specificity, falsifiability, testability, coherence, limits. It lacks humility and honesty and humanity...

This. Of all those involved in this farce, they have the least excuse of all. This is exactly the sort of stuff they are supposed to be the experts at, and advise the rest of us on how to not make these kinds of mistakes.

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There are few things I loathe more in this world than for-profit science journals. If I was king for a day they would be among the first up against the metaphorical wall.

I would like it if they used at least some of that money to increase their sample sizes.

Their defensiveness was utterly palpable and I’ve never been treated so unprofessionally in my life. The physician community has “issues.” Sure does. I used to work in a hospital before I got sick. I have closely worked and socialised with, and even gone out with, doctors. They are very...

Whatever the details of who said what, when, about pacing, Goudsmit deserves more credit and recognition than she might otherwise get.

One of those ideas that could be good in principle, but in practice is likely to be very messy indeed.

I am a huge fan of science-based medicine. The amount of suffering and death it has relieved and prevented is enormous. It is without doubt one of the greatest of all human achievements. I just wish there was more of it. :bookworm:

Especially in the Golden Age of Functional Everything.

Yeah, something is not adding up here.

Oh the BPS club have learned some lessons alright. Just not the ones they should have. But then there was never much chance of that happening, was there. I hope they understand and are prepared for just how long the haul and ferocious the resistance is likely to be for them.