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Most of this is plain false, or at best wildly misleading, and none of it makes any sense. This is completely disconnected from reality. We are really nearing the point at which AI medicine is no longer necessary just to keep progressing, but to prevent massive regression. This is "future...

Yup, and actually it's this fake positioning and abuse that makes it necessary to categorically shut the door to all psychosocial models, even anything that hints of it. All of them, with extreme prejudice. Zero space other than adjunct and in such a generic sense that it leaves no room for any...

The hell are these people talking about? Their bullshit ideology is responsible for this, and they have always presented themselves as the solution, so this is nothing new but it still looks appalling. Arsonists who work for the fire department wondering what's up with all those fires they keep...

I just can't bring myself to have any hope, I have learned that lesson the hard way, but most of this looks good. Some overstatement over already-identified biomarker, and really missing the point about vaccines causing the same chronic illnesses but not being part of it, as it's actually a very...

An adversarial relationship built on trust. Makes sense if you don't think about it. Ultimately this is what's insane about this ideology. It's fundamentally adversarial towards us, but everything they do requires trust and relationships, while making such relationships the worst thing...

It's genuinely impressive how much bullshit they packed in such a short abstract. All pseudoscience does is lead to more pseudoscience and less scientific and technological innovation, which is all that actually matters. Some people like this. Damn humans are weird.

This is never happening, and exactly why developing treatments is the only viable solution. Human nature never changes. The only changes our civilization have seen that have forced social progress have all been technological, by simply working around our nature. This is what makes both...

Given how few professionals even want to get involved, and how most of them will want to do the same wrong thing, it's pretty much inevitable. It's only a question of what agenda the prominent experts who gain influence have, and how likely it is to work toward a solution that will actually free...

Their excuses for why it failed, despite somehow hinting that it was actually a success all along, is that although they expected "immediate" relief, which they define as within 1 year, they saw instead a delayed, by a year, effect, and that supports a biopsychosocial mechanism, while saying...

While saying that doing the same thing for longer might have, somehow, all worked anyway. This would be a comically inept level of fraud if it wasn't that it represents the "best and brightest", showing how the fish is rotten from the head down.

OK seriously this is just fully embracing the post-truth era. And it's The Lancet, supposed to be one of the respectable ones, and they just allow total bullshit to pass as factual. What in the hell? The first claim is literally built on this lie, out of trials that assert that CBT-or-whatever...

True. It would be more accurate that this is why they say it's not a disease, despite concluding otherwise in other cases. I don't know if they really do consider those other issues without a known pathology to be diseases, or simply syndromes that they respect and fear. As @Trish noted, the...

It's definitely the right decision to make, but what the hell does that say about totally ineffective treatments being standard? It's nothing to do with being effective. It's decisions like this that make it clear that efficacy is more of a matter of opinion in those decisions. This here is the...

I think this is probably the best argument we have. They have circled everything 100x over, there hasn't been any original biopsychosocial research. We keep hearing how they need to do more research, but they never actually do more research, they just do the same thing again and again. Glad to...

That's an odd framing. It's been confidently asserted that this is the norm from the very start, minimizing illness in children has been an integral part of the overall minimizing strategy, from denying the possibility to insisting that full recovery is guaranteed if it ever happens. So to talk...

A disease is mostly disabling because of symptoms. People can have a disease without knowing it if it barely affects their lives. It's not disease that impairs people most of the time, it's illness and symptoms. Just because medicine doesn't understand that doesn't change what it is, but what...

Then it's at least fortunate that one of those texts is not the same awful myths and tropes. We can't make people change their minds here, but what is going on can be documented in a way that, some day, it can be pointed at to say: "you knew, you were all made aware of all of this, and you...

Now that is an absolutely awful text that actually espouses the flavor-aid. It 'debunks' exactly as much as a jester doing a fake roast of the king that is actually completely sycophantic to the point of being cringe-worthy. I guess what they mean is 'debunking' the view of patients. As is...

That's really funny. From our perspective as patients, literally all discussions about us happen in secret behind closed doors, they are always confidential and we never know anything about what's going on. Mostly because either nothing is going on, or what goes on is very bad for us and is...

I agree, enduring has a strong linguistic appeal to me. When I read the part about 'managing' symptoms, my mind immediately (as it often does) went to how it's rather that we are enduring them. There is very little we do that actually counts as managing anything, we just suffer, indefinitely. We...