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    The use of the labels ME, CFS, ME/CFS

    If Dr O'Leary thinks that NICE's decision to use "Myalgic encephalomyelitis (or encephalopathy)/chronic fatigue syndrome" and "ME/CFS" for the 2021 guideline instead of "Chronic fatigue syndrome/myalgic encephalomyelitis" and "CFS/ME" (as per the 2007 guideline) will somehow overnight "sort the...
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    The use of the labels ME, CFS, ME/CFS

    For those not aware, in an August 2020 BMJ Rapid Response, lecturer in philosophy, Dr Diane O'Leary, included this gem: https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3026/rr-4 “The term “chronic fatigue syndrome” names a psychiatric condition that sometimes develops in reaction to acute viral...
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    The use of the labels ME, CFS, ME/CFS

    As bolsters for her own papers and articles? If she was that concerned about the use of the term "Chronic fatigue syndrome" I would have thought she'd have been all over the US ICD-10-CM September proposals - but not a word, that I have seen. According to her, it's sorted in the US because the...
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    The use of the labels ME, CFS, ME/CFS

    Sorry to go off topic, but the nonsense she spouts about NICE having "dropped CFS" makes my blood boil.
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    The use of the labels ME, CFS, ME/CFS

    I do wonder whether some of her hubris stems from having been misdiagnosed some years ago with CFS before being diagnosed with Sneddon's syndrome (all public domain and media reported information). Now she seems to think that reversing the order of CFS/ME to ME/CFS has erased the CFS term...
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    The use of the labels ME, CFS, ME/CFS

    Why is she seemingly incapable of grasping that in the UK, under NHS England's mandated coding and terminology systems, it makes no difference whether you are diagnosed with Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome, or with myalgic encephalomyelitis, or with chronic fatigue syndrome -...
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    The use of the labels ME, CFS, ME/CFS

    The fact that the WHO continues to code both terms to 8E49 for ICD-11, is in her view, immaterial. As is SNOMED CT having CFS as the lead term and cross mapped to ICD-10's G93.3. I find it interesting that for someone based in the US she never involves herself in US coding proposals. If the...
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    UK NICE 2021 ME/CFS Guideline, published 29th October - post-publication discussion

    She appears to believe that NICE's decision to switch the 2007 guideline title "Chronic fatigue syndrome/myalgic encephalomyelitis" to "Myalgic encephalomyelitis (or encephalopathy)/chronic fatigue syndrome" for the 2021 guideline some how magics away the term, "Chronic fatigue syndrome", which...
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    The use of the labels ME, CFS, ME/CFS

    She appears to believe that NICE's decision to switch the 2007 guideline title "Chronic fatigue syndrome/myalgic encephalomyelitis" to "Myalgic encephalomyelitis (or encephalopathy)/chronic fatigue syndrome" for the 2021 guideline some how magics away the term, "Chronic fatigue syndrome", which...
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    UK NICE 2021 ME/CFS Guideline, published 29th October - post-publication discussion

    Diane O'Leary is still at it: Meanwhile, NCHS has proposals under review by the Director of NCHS for returning Chronic fatigue syndrome to the ICD-10-CM G93.3 location, under proposed new sub-code: G93.32 Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome, with three proposed inclusion terms...
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    The use of the labels ME, CFS, ME/CFS

    This post has been copied and following posts copied or moved from the NICE guideline publication thread here Diane O'Leary is still at it: Meanwhile, NCHS has proposals for returning Chronic fatigue syndrome to the ICD-10-CM G93.3 location under proposed new sub-code: G93.32 Myalgic...
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    NHS England web pages on ME/CFS

    CS has stated publicly that ME Association have this on their "to do" list but I don't know about other orgs.
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    2021 US ICD-10-CM change proposal: addition of code for ME/CFS

    A reminder that if you are planning to submit feedback on the proposals of the 7 US orgs and the alternative proposals presented by NCHS*, the deadline for receipt of comments is November 15. Comments on the diagnosis proposals presented at the September 14-15, 2021 ICD-10-CM Coordination and...
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    News from Doctors with ME

    Have they forgotten that in August they had claimed: "...This was after the final embargoed copy of the guideline already contained last-minute amendments that undermined the entire practical basis of a science-led document."
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    Updates on status of ICD-11 and changes to other classification and terminology systems

    A reminder that if you are planning to submit feedback on the proposals of the 7 US orgs and the alternative proposals presented by NCHS*, the deadline for receipt of comments is November 15. Comments on the diagnosis proposals presented at the September 14-15, 2021 ICD-10-CM Coordination and...
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    UK NICE 2021 ME/CFS Guideline, published 29th October - post-publication discussion

    If that's the one where another clinician is playing the part of a patient, the links for these presentations are on a thread in another place.
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    UK NICE 2021 ME/CFS Guideline, published 29th October - post-publication discussion

    https://www.nice.org.uk/process/pmg20/chapter/finalising-and-publishing-the-guideline 11.1 Quality assurance of the guideline After changes agreed by the committee have been made to the guideline in response to consultation comments from registered stakeholders, the guideline is reviewed by...
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    UK NICE 2021 ME/CFS Guideline, published 29th October - post-publication discussion

    Yes, 30 July sign of by Guidance Executive. Sign off by Guideline Committee happens before sign off by Quality Assurance (8 July) and sign off by Guidance Executive (30 July). So the order is: Committee sign off (no date available). Quality Assurance sign off. 3 committee members resign...
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    UK NICE 2021 ME/CFS Guideline, published 29th October - post-publication discussion

    On 29 October, ie the day after publication, I finally received a response to my 28 days overdue request: 1. The date on which Quality assurance for guideline: Myalgic encephalomyelitis (or encephalopathy)/chronic fatigue syndrome: diagnosis and management In development [GID-NG10091] was...
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