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    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    See Slide #71 from the November 2019 presentation, below. Source: https://digital.nhs.uk/binaries/con...eholder_events_november_2019-final-slides.pdf IAPT Stakeholder Events, November 2019 - Presentation Slides Note: The "MUS - not otherwise specified" from the IAPT v1.5 + LTC/MUS Pilot was...
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    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    Covering email and "stakeholder feedback" in PDF format in response to Request 29847 sent this morning to the following: For the attention of: Elaine Wooler; Cc: Sheree Hemingway; Lynn Bracewell, NHS Digital Terminology and classifications; Cc: Dr James Case; Jane Millar, SNOMED CT...
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    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    Well, I've drafted a letter for NHS Digital's SNOMED CT UK Edition leads and it will be sent on Monday morning. In the light of my Recommendations, I have decided to Cc in the International Edition's terminology lead who had handled the requests made via Forward-ME, in 2017, for changes to the...
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    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    https://digital.nhs.uk/binaries/content/assets/website-assets/data-and-information/data-sets/iapt/iapt-v2.0-docs/iapt_stakeholder_events_november_2019-final-slides.pdf IAPT Stakeholder Events, November 2019 - Presentation Slides Slide #18:
  5. Dx Revision Watch

    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    Goldberg (IoP, WHO-FIC Collaborating Centre) was also a UK PI for the ICD-10 Mental disorder field trials.
  6. Dx Revision Watch

    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    Goldberg was also involved with the IoP committee that adapted a UK version of the WHO's ICD-10 PHC for the UK publication: WHO guide to Mental Health in Primary Care, 2002 which I've covered in other threads (the book for which errata notes had to be inserted after they assigned F45 codes to...
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    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    Goldberg and Sartorius go back a long way and have collaborated on other projects. He may have been involved in the development of ICD-10 - I don't know. As you see, he was involved with ICD-11 MH Topic Advisory Group meetings but was not a member of TAG MH. But there were a number of TAG MH sub...
  8. Dx Revision Watch

    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    In the context of this request for addition of the SSD term to SNOMED CT UK Edition to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified" for the IAPT Data Sets v2.0, due to be released in April, I have not been able to find any references to IAPT's consideration of the forthcoming ICD-11 and the potential...
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    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    https://www.who.int/mental_health/evidence/icd_advisory_group_december_08_summary.pdf December 2008: Summary Report of the 4th Meeting of the International Advisory Group for the Revision of the ICD-10 Mental and Behavioural Disorders World Health Organization Department of Mental Health and...
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    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    Extract from archived content on my site: From 2008: "There is already a degree of correspondence between DSM-IV categories and Chapter V of ICD-10. For the next editions, the APA and the WHO have committed as far as possible: "To facilitate the achievement of the highest possible extent of...
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    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    There had initially been an MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) between APA and WHO that as far as possible, both systems would strive for harmonisation between their disorder definitions for the MH chapter. One of the DSM-5 Task Force chairs (Steven Hyman) had also been installed as chair of the...
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    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    Wessely presented at the 2006 Bejing WHO/APA DSM-5 Symposium but was not a UK member of the DSM-5 SSD work group - that was Michael Sharpe and Francis Creed. Wessely did sit on an ICD-11 Topic Advisory Group for PTSD.
  13. Dx Revision Watch

    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    Who knows? This is after all the man who claimed back in 1993, that Neurasthenia would serve very well for ME, CFS. He does seem to get very mardy around classification systems.
  14. Dx Revision Watch

    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    I think he's possibly saying: a) DSM-5 texts/criteria and ICD-10/11 texts/disorder descriptions for mental disorders aren't designed for GP use. b) Even if they were drafted for GPs, GPs would ignore them and get their information/guidance from other sources which don't rely on rigid criteria...
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    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    I find this rather worrying, too: "DSM and the ICD mental heslth secrions were designed to be used by mental heslth professiinals." but I've seen emails from Wessely similarly littered with typos. Can he not be bothered to check what he writes?
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    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    He's saying that the texts in the DSM-5 manual and in the e-version of the manual are written for psychiatrists and allied mental health specialists - not written for GPs. Which is the case. In 2013, the APA planned to produce an abridged DSM-5 intended for GPs - but I don't think that a primary...
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    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    The files are not prepared yet, but there are references to Prof Wessely in the minutes of the RCPsych/RCGP Working Group on Medically Unexplained Symptoms (MUS) meetings on 16 May 2014 and 26 September, 2014 I'll drop the extracts here: 16 May 2014 (...) 2.4 Meeting with RCPsych/RCGP...
  18. Dx Revision Watch

    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    From 2013: PDF: http://bit.ly/3c6fRYe RCPsych/RCGP Working Group on Medically Unexplained Symptoms (MUS) Notes of the meeting held by teleconference on 13 December 2013
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    IAPT requests addition of DSM-5's Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) to SNOMED CT for use in Data Set v2.0 to replace "MUS - not otherwise specified"

    From 2013: PDF: http://bit.ly/2T37TpR RCPsych/RCGP Working Group on Medically Unexplained Symptoms Notes of the meeting held on 7 November 2013 at Wonford House Hospital, Dryden Road, Exeter EX2 5AF Present Dr Simon Heyland, Consultant Psychiatrist in Medical Psychotherapy, joint chair Dr...
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