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    Trial Report Functional Limitations and Exercise Intolerance in Patients With Post-COVID Condition A Randomized Crossover Clinical Trial, 2024, Tryfonos et al

    Yep this is just a long anecdote exampling how there are some who still don't/won't get that there is another definition of 'can't' .. which is that arrogance that has made us all very ill by people spreading misinformation about it ... which is that when we force ourselves we can indeed hurt...
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    The Agreed Care/Activity Plan

    Another classic: "It is important that you practise walking with the nurses to and from the toilet/bathroom where possible, to get you back into your normal daily routine. This will help to build your strength and confidence." Doesn't sound like it is based on much more than some 'judgement'...
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    The Agreed Care/Activity Plan

    I've found this elsewhere for post-op for something else. I think there is more going on and don't really know from the phrase 'research' whether there is anything even evidencing that properly. There is a belief-system issue potentially just in 'belief-systems know best'. As we know, this sort...
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    The Agreed Care/Activity Plan

    truth is I think there are probably a lot of others it doesn’t work for who are just more able to walk away and not have to say anything, it’s just the coercion issue used on CFS means we’ve been the poor so and sos they got obsessed with because they had to say it
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    UK: People with ongoing Long Covid symptoms unable to donate blood (as of July 2023)

    are they claiming as for ME/CFS that it is all about them caring about the pwme and not the recipient issue?
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    The Agreed Care/Activity Plan

    Here is the other thing along the lines of agreement and informed consent. CBT was supposed to be an add-on (that wasn't needed to be in the guidelines, just like all other illnesses would have that option) for if comorbidities were present. Yet it, and underlying beliefs about things like GET...
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    The Agreed Care/Activity Plan

    Thank you for raising this. Clarity is required in order that what might have been the correct intention isn't distorted into something quite different. Particularly when it is being done by a service itself (rather than eg GP signing off needs/adjustments for other provider to provide) and...
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    The Agreed Care/Activity Plan

    Without the correct methodology then no. The issue for ME / CFS being as vulnerable as it is has always been due to the fact that we can 'do' but then it causes deterioration. But in a very different way to those who are ill with certain illness who talk about 'I'll pay for that later'. The...
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    The Agreed Care/Activity Plan

    Add in the additional problem that we've now all realised those of us who gave something a go as guinea pigs at least thought that what the outcome for us as individuals was would be written down accurately. Imagine how devastating it is to realise (probably due to coercion or fear in the...
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    The Agreed Care/Activity Plan

    It is very naughty too if they are actually using care / activity For ME/CFS those are polar opposites. The care plan that @Kitty describes is noting adjustments that people who are there to provide support need to make and be aware of. The idea that people need an activity plan, and that...
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    The Agreed Care/Activity Plan

    All of this is really disturbing to me. I have inadvertently seen it creep in, in layman's terms in language used in other areas albeit the individual isn't probably aware where it is coming from or the power of it. But it means I have to rise above, or try, even though it gives me the shivers...
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    The Canary: The two leading UK ME/CFS charities are linked to an organisation fomenting the psychologisation of the illness, 2024, Hannah Sharland

    Link to article: BACME: ME/CFS charities work with psychologising organisation (thecanary.co) I've picked out the following as the intro, but worth a read on the BACME discussion etc and other things (it isn't just about the charities). It also picks out some interesting overlaps and...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    if we have an idea more specifically of what we think is needed /could be useful, then perhaps phrasing a question along those terms is the angle/starter for ten? or a potential one for the list to choose from
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    Agreed there are interesting aspects to this. I just don't know how this question can be asked at the same time as the others and it not leading to us not getting an answer to the other questions which potentially something can be done about at this stage. Because if it is worded as 'why was...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    Agreed. I struggle for words that will get this across to others with the right nuance but there are certain positions and certain aspects that will necessitate people having to focus on 'defending' whether it be a decision or themselves and so on. There are other questions or issues where the...
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    Why are psychologists and rehabilitationists so unaware that their research, questionnaires and treatment can cause harm?

    On that note. And maybe it is cloud-cuckoo land, but there is stuff we can do if we start actually thinking like this. The 'what's in it for me' question, but also the fact that people are given set timescales to complete research at whatever level and there are always easier and very hard...
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    Why are psychologists and rehabilitationists so unaware that their research, questionnaires and treatment can cause harm?

    And a lot of people will go to somewhere or someone with an intent of being quite 'transactional', they want something and they have a plan to get what they require and a plan - if they think it might come up - or just well-worn tactics of avoiding the 'giving' or 'giving away' or 'discussing'...
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    Why are psychologists and rehabilitationists so unaware that their research, questionnaires and treatment can cause harm?

    Of course what you are talking about is: ethics. There is genuine denial, which I don't doubt is also the case. And then there is also 'don't expect me to care', not my fight, 'so what'. A lot of people just don't have ethics. Unless they know they will be caught and it will make a difference to...
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    Why are psychologists and rehabilitationists so unaware that their research, questionnaires and treatment can cause harm?

    I've copied the following quote from David Tuller's interview with George Monbiot, Trial By Error: Guardian Columnist George Monbiot Discusses His Scathing Rebuke of the Biopsychosocial Brigades--Text Version | Virology Blog because I think it actually applied to a note I was thinking of for...
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    Trial Report Explanation for symptoms and biographical repair in a clinic for persistent physical symptoms, 2024, Burton

    Biographical repair from the same people who keep the foot on the neck via misinformation that means we live in epistemic injustice where everyone at best thinks we are fatigued? and maybe doing mindfulness or all these additional exertions will be useful? to quote three men and a little...
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