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Time to start cranking up the lawsuits.

As is tradition for CBT, et al.

Let alone if it is intrinsically pathological, or even indicative of pathology elsewhere.

+1 Very good discussion.

Not a complete waste of time, but certainly a good measure of how poorly understood it all is. This.

Funding bodies and ethics committees are as much the problem as anybody. They could stop this nonsense overnight, if they wanted to.

:speechless:

We can (and indeed must) accept the immediate realities before us, and all the limitations they impose upon us, without accepting that they will or should stay that way.

Psycho-tyranny.

Matching expectations and goals with limits and circumstances is necessary at a strictly practical level for everybody, not just patients. It is something all humans do every day as a matter of course. It is not a formal therapy requiring research and expensive gate-keeping 'experts' to guide...

It is now beyond dispute that technical and ethical self-governance in the psych branch of medicine (especially psychosomatics) has broken down, to the point where it is clearly incapable of fixing itself and will need externally imposed intervention, including considerable input from outside of...

I am not comfortable with anonymity. Transparency seems particularly important in this situation given the history of how decisions have been made about us, without us. That said, there can be good reasons for it in some situations too. Just not sure this is one of them.

And there is the problem. If this was just a few rogue individuals it would be (relatively) easy to stop it. Problem is that virtually the whole field is soaked through with these methodological shortcomings, to the point where many in the field don't even see that there is a problem, or at...

he he

And that is the nicest possible interpretation that can be made of it.

So they don't feel any moral obligation to help the disabled, is my cynical take on it.

The output of the psychosomatic advocates tells us far more about what is going on in their minds than it does in the minds of their patients.

And ME in particular would be one of the worst possible choices you could make to get attention and (alleged) secondary gains.

So, how does that work with the whole 'ignore your symptoms and push on through' thing?

+1 :thumbsup: Getting it more openly discussed and debated, and on the record, is a critical step.