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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    AS IF their email claiming ‘used fir other chronic illnesses’ isn’t a lie here that’s a major ethics breach. There is no way people with MS or cancer are being asked this in clinics and AS IF a clinic looking at ‘delivery of’ outsourced hip replacements is asking this it’s an utter utter...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    And yes if they aren’t providing either the same correct terms for why people can’t or the extent of adaptation and having to live with a half shower etc and expecting their ‘pick one day’ experiment instead of describe a day within PEM and talking about consent levels of handing over data to...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    Me too but the more I think about how dangerous this is… It is using a distorting framing which will distort what someone’s disability and abilities across days weeks etc look like I think it’s misleading in concerning ways too. Most days I can’t shower. As you say eventually you have to do...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    :thumbup: Agree, there is a difference between getting people qualified to and interested in speaking to the 'overall' vs just getting a few people in to say limited feedback on something overall designed to go a certain way. To what extent was that group, their qualification to understand...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    Every good research should know that you begin with exploratory focus groups - or in this case adapted so they could have taken in the first-hand information of those too ill to perhaps do that format - in order to inform that type of survey and if it was going to work. So I don't think there...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    they don't even seem to have noticed the possibility of increased activities and duties related to actually being ill. Like ringing for prescriptions or medical appointments, sorting and getting results of tests, follow-up and booking new appointments and scheduling how on earth to get somewhere...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    using an incomplete list masquerading as a choice of them using a list to replace asking people directly what % of what normal people have energy and choice-wise in a day. Yes indeed. Being able to bear in mind whether these are questions people will be qualified to answer. ie could even...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    what on earth is it that they think this illness actually is?
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    Agree, and I thought that most indeed have variations on this. I'd go as far as it seeming 'contrived' to the idea that only exercise 'counts' as exertion up until level 5 where they've melded bedbound into only those who are very severe. convenient if you are a bit one-dimensional to the...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    there is nothing at all to make their data set representative of the population ergo not externally valid. Particularly with such an accessibility issue of it being only those who are prepared to consent to all of that, and can wade through 98 questions, or those who can't but did them half...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    I'm so astoundedly outraged by this from a professional point of view. NO research organisation should not be censuring people doing this - even for healthy people just based on lengths of questions there would be utter uproar: they are only getting away with this because it is a vulnerable...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    Or at least means they should be emailing the info BUT absolutely must be doing so asking the question as to whether someone wants to not just withdraw consent but data on basis it was filled out without ticking any of that. SO it cannot hold. BUt any poor soul who was really ill and made...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    This sounds so naive and missing understanding it is starting to be obscure? I think their own descriptions of the different levels are part of the problem here. There is a common level between 4 and 5 they have just skipped over. Most people will have all of these sensitivies and definitely be...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    doubt it.. that's what psychometric does. Cross-compares consistency of answers PLus I guess some of these activities (the ones doubled up) can be done at different levels of demandingness. like crazy golf or having a putting machine in your living room vs 18holes carrying a bag around...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    Thanks for confirming, so it is mainly via the email from the ME Association? I don't fully understand the list that has been added regarding consent vs this on the recruitment side of things. I also don't know how they think they have something representative to use, and how they can claim...
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    Podcast: Post Exertional Mayonnaise: Eliza Charley: ME and the cult-like nature of psychologisation

    Ideally one with time spent horizontal and maybe whatever measures might indicate it hasn’t been great for health to account for all the variations (inc someone still having to do all that but the gait being what shows how unwell they were doing it or being collapsed where they might have been...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    Come to think of it.. can anyone confirm how she has ensured that those filling in the survey actually have the diagnosis they claim ie it couldn’t just be accessed by entry it’s making up stuff to skew the data by saying they have ME then ticking they did x y or z?
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    There is nothing at all to do with a university that would require this. I can’t imagine her physiotherapists regulator asking to look at it either GDPR and anything else would be requiring it was stored safely anything checking fir fraud would be making sure it came from a real source and...
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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023

    just thought on this one again. no it isn’t university anything they seem to be using the data in some sort of psychometric way so not necessarily looking at individuals patterns might be lowest common denominator which would be an issue. I guess that’s why they don’t want to allow the odd...
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    General news about Fabricated and Induced Illness syndrome (FII)

    And this sadistic refusing people in pain pain relief when it’s obvious claiming a ‘belief in hysteria because they are women’ well surely that should be prosecutable as something like assault (and detention where they are detained for long times in such pain) under false pretences or...
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