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Wow! well done

It seems to me that the only people who think there are gains to be had from the 'sick role' are people who've never actually been sick for any length of time.

Eeeww! shudder. Only skimmed it but ugh, just ugh.:sick: My old Humanistic therapist told me once that they privately called psychoanalysts 'psycho_Anal_ists', but now i'm the one gossiping out of turn. Yikes! :eek: And also thank you for making me, once again laugh out loud. :D the...

I dont want to take the thread off topic, but just to say that it would be interesting to know the theraputic orientation of said therapist... ie psychoanalytical (freudian), psychodynamic or humanistic? Since in my (albeit limited) experience, Humanistic therapists consider themselves equal to...

I couldnt agree more @JaimeS , but then that's what i've been afraid of since they announced the review/update. I think it's interesting that Colin Barton seems to think they are 'better than nothing' at this point, given his Pro BPS/Miller stance. Personally I'm not sure that is the case & istm...

precisely

I know you know this @strategist so this comment isnt directed at you, just using your words to illustrate that.. he entire problem for us (not just this NICE guideline, but everything), revolves around the fact that they have successfully convinced themselves & the medical establishment, that...

I couldnt agree more. If it werent so diabolical it'd be amusing that a shrink was doing it.

Comment from Colin Barton in visitor posts on MEA facebook page this evening "It will be fortunate if we still have NICE guidelines at this rate as there is very little that is evidence based apart from specialist CBT (Psychology) and specialist GET (physiotherapy). The existence of the...

from chater 10 Pelvic symptoms "Abdominal palpation and internal pelvic examination should be performed – failure to perform an examination may be interpreted as evidence that you are not taking the symptoms seriously." How patronising! How dare you imply that the reason a patient complaining of...

oh for goodness sake! :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: AFME in fantasy land again. no energy & too foggy to explain why committee members telling us their 'current views & relationship with PwME' will be useless & misleading....... Disingenuous being the BPSers middle name...

no. and the worst of it is that some people who are not yet severe, will continue to be MADE severe by GET & then magically get shoved into the 'ignore' group. I mean frankly i'd like to be in an 'ignore & leave to rot' group if the only alternative is a 'coerce or section to enable torture'...

This and this. If we could just get the rest of the charities/ME orgs to grasp this we might stand a slight chance of it not being a catastrophe. I feel like i just want to keep repeating these 2 posts, over & over ad infinitum. "The strongest argument that we have is that current guidelines...

Yes it's all a bit 'Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy' isnt it?

would be really interested to read the full paper if anyone has access.

I feel sick about this. I kept saying, during the time when people were pressing for the guideline to be reviewed that doing it now means we'd likely end up with something even worse. I just cannot see how it can go any other way with the people they've chosen :cry: ETA: that not meant to sound...

As i said several pages ago this outcome was my fear from the beginning, & although i now see it as unlikely to have been Tovey's original intention, the outcome is the same. What a devastating master stroke :cry:

I'm afraid i think it is, i've been worrying aabout it from the beginning. but then i'm a dreadful cynic solets hope i'm wrong.

yeah i saw part of another episode last night & at least half of the consults started with the Dr saying some version of "whats been going on in your life"? "have you been under stress"? "are you feeling anxious".... before they even examined the patient. So awful i turned off

soylent green!!!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: oh Donner that whole video made me laugh so much thank you.