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Am I missing something? I fail to see where exactly the "C" from CBT comes into play, or which dysfunctional beliefs/cognitive distortions are being addressed here. The whole core idea of CBT is that those drive the B, distorted behaviour. People were getting sleep hygiëne instructions that...

Yes. They worked closely together with the UK group, and helped build the illusion of a foundation under their pet theories, both by creating lots of papers and resource material (the PACE trial uses 3 of the Nijmegen group's papers in referral to criteria used, the therapy delivered and the...

Ok, so this *points up* wasn't true, given Bleijenberg's past and interests. It was an excuse. Bleijenberg was already doing behavioral treatments for things like "speaking stomach syndrome"(basically if you had a noisy belly) or (I think the english term is) anismus (When you can't relax your...

I think that might be a good idea, also because their ideas seem to sprout almost fully formed as a whole into being. There seems to be a distinct period of consolidation of the whole unfounded psychosomatic construct for ME between roughly 1989-1992, which leads back to Wessely's articles...

May 30th 1991, Patient Care (journal that went to 115,000 clinicians): The article Tips on chronic fatigue syndrome, by Buchwald, Gantz, Katon and Manu. (Buchwald and Gantz later said that while they had been interviewed for the article, they had not authored it.). A seemingly nasty article...

R.E. Kendell, Chronic fatigue, viruses and depression, Lancet, 19th of January 1991 Referred to in newspaper Trouw of 9th of February 1991: Note how all the usual greatest hits fallacies come together in one early quote. This piece was also referred to in the Dutch Nijmegen group's "part 2"...

Peter Manu, together with T.J. Lane and D.A. Matthews, wrote a piece called "The frequency of the chronic fatigue syndrome in patients with symptoms of persistent fatigue" for Annals of Internal Medicine in 1988. This was one of the references for the Oxford criteria (published February 1991)...

From the book Osler's Web by Hillary Johnson, Ciba Foundation Symposium 173d, summary. Page 571 The Ciba Foundation was an independant academic institution funded by the giant, Switzerland-based pharmaceutical company Ciba-Geigy The conference had only 25 participants Elaine DeFreitas was...

It's not very long/much, but (when I have the spoons) I'll try to summarize it to be on the safe side. :thumbsup:

Osler's Web also has two parts about the Ciba Foundation Symposium, and the contempt they had for CFS (pages 571 and 588). I'll see if I can get my scanner to work for me to show the content.

The Lancet article of the 19th of January 1991 was a direct influence on Wesseley and Sharpe's dutch co-author and colleague Bleijenberg. Although it could of course very well be that Bleijenberg got alerted to the article via Wesseley/Sharpe/White, being from the UK. In fact, Kendell is...

That part was, well, I wanted to say a particularly nasty bit of the article, but the whole thing is quite vile. I didn't even read it as referring to "getting better will cost them money". That is usually not the approach here. What I find particularly heinous about it is the implication that...

It's important to realise that that's not what they're doing. This article is basically a PR piece, a commercial for their "product" disguised as a news article. The pseudoscience the whole group produced, together with articles like these, are not meant to learn or inform, but to build a...

Funny you should mention that, as their description in the newspaper sounded a bit like my own mono experience when I was 15. Stretcher in the living room for several weeks if I remember right, and it took a while to fully recover because I stayed fatigued (but months, not years, in my case...

Yes! Trouw, 24th of april 2003. The link: Vergelijk jezelf niet met vroeger | Trouw I can't seem to get it through the translation site. So I'll add a google translation: Don't compare yourself to the past There is now an effective therapy for chronic fatigue syndrome (formerly ME)...

Argh, I accidentally deleted the whole bit I typed.:facepalm: Well, let's try that again. Yes, I completely agree. That's why I used the quotation marks. Being washed is important, and can be simply heavenly after prolonged periods of non-washing, but it's not a necessity. Being dressed isn't...

Thank you all for your replies. For me this confirms what I already was pretty sure of: that there is no official research claiming such spectacular and unbelievable results. As most of you know, Blijenberg & co insist that CBT is a cure (the small print remark that patients should give a new...

@dave30th and @Michiel Tack , you might find this of interest, from the early days of the Dutch "CFS expert" group: Het Parool, 22nd of July 1989: Jos van der Meer "doubts if the criteria that English and American researchers have drafted are applicable to many of dutch patients. 'I see for...

Hello everyone, I'm doing some research which may or may not lead to writing an article. When reading old newspaper articles from The Netherlands, I came across a 2003 piece featuring Judith Prins and Gijs Bleijenberg. Apart from the usual tripe, they make the claim that due to their CBT...