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I agree the message is quite clear, but they do not write "cfs is psychogenic" in full letters (they do not hesitate to do it for FND though).

Oh no, they never say it but the subtext is so clear it's as if they were screaming "all in your head". The fact they won't admit what they think but keep implying it loud (and jump on any patient that dare say it) is just really pervert. Lying to patients raises many ethical questions, but...

Ah ah, may I add a bit of French analysis?

Even bigger picture here: https://i.imgur.com/Aenjq0E.jpg

Claims like the one made by Wessely about us "refusing the stigma of mental illness" is indeed very telling about his views and his acceptance of a truly unfair reality, maybe even an implicit justification of this stigma.

When inconsistency becomes a proof your "unifying theory" is correct, you'd better start it all over again and throw your model in the dustbin...

Some interesting comments on that thread:

http://www.virology.ws/2018/05/07/trial-by-error-my-visits-with-alem-matthees/ So terrible Alem had to pay such a price. Thanks @dave30th for visiting him.

Especially when the diagnosis is based a few years later on the same oxymoron the first diagnosis was made with: medicine is a finished science. They are looking for a known and understood disease that could have been missed before not even thinking their paradigm is wrong, so I don't see how...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29697324 (Not available on SH)

Maybe there are some ways to go for us... https://www.them.us/story/fight-to-end-conversion-therapy

Well, that is an admission... I'm just wondering why then he ever tried to push a one size fits all kind of treatment, and dissmissed conflicting voices, why he never ever tried to identify the subgroup that had "good" outcomes with his therapy.

https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2014/02/victim-patient-profiling.html

Can't agree more with you @Woolie In a study about cancer and fatigue discussed in another thread, they spoke about "insufficient coping with cancer" as a cause of fatigue. That really kills me. How can people that are so-called experts in psychology be so unaware of the complexity of life in...

Trial By Error: The Shopping Bag Study; and New York State’s Revamped Website http://www.virology.ws/2018/04/24/trial-by-error-the-shopping-bag-study-and-new-york-states-revamped-website/ Thread...

No trace of another disease control group. So how can you know that these "thoughts and feelings" experienced by patients during the task and after are linked to having "CFS/ME" or to be sick? I guess carrying a bag is a whole different experience when you're healthy or when you have ME, MS or...

This is really total nonsense, even from the standpoint that ME is psychiatric. On the moral side, it implies that being sick is a matter of "choice". Then, even if ME was a "choice", the therapy would be considered successful only if patients gave up their bad choices to more healthy ones. If...

CCHR is an organisation created by the church of scientology, not really reliable. https://www.scientology.org/how-we-help/citizens-commission-on-human-rights.html

:jawdrop: I can imagine the "therapist" explaining a cancer survivor; "you've just been so loosy at coping with a life threatening illness with difficult to bear side effects, you know". Of course there are people who cope better than others with cancer, but using the word "insufficient" is just...