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Frankly, what surprises me is how you avoid answering relevant basic questions, yet go on repeating "bad science" not actually addressing any of the points brought up in references. Ad hominem arguments and those relying on form, not content are not quite what I would hope to find here.

quote from that link: "3. XMRV doesnt even want anything to do with primates. Certainly not humans." Really? Let's look at the abstract of the paper: "Nevertheless, XMRV is a retrovirus of undefined pathogenic potential that is able to replicate in human cells."...

Did you bother to look at my previous post? You might very well carry a whole circus of animal retroviruses, including hybrids. some quotes putting the findings linked above into perspective: "Looking at the excipient list of vaccines, we can quickly see that every vaccine may be...

Some food for thought: Hempel HA, Burns KH, De Marzo AM, Sfanos KS. “Infection of Xenotransplanted Human Cell Lines by Murine Retroviruses: A Lesson Brought Back to Light by XMRV”, Front Oncol. 2013, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3683812/ Christine A. Kozak: Origins of the...

I will only quote passages I feel elaborating on makes sense, I agree with the rest @Philipp Should the chairwoman of the largest patient organization be considered a laywoman, would that be appropriate for someone in her position? Also, Stark explicitly responds to present "scientific"...

None of these people give the impression of acknowledging let alone having dealt with severe ME. No one who has witnessed how merely being touched, moved, washed, spoken to or exposed to light can cause PENE and permanent damage could make claims as outrageous as Stark's. No one who does not...

So... Fatigatio now published the following under their statement regarding the German Guidelines: https://www.fatigatio.de/stellungnahme-zur-s3-ll-muedigkeit/ 1. General information about DEGAM https://www.fatigatio.de/fileadmin/user_upload/07/01_dokumente/00_allgemeines_zur_degam.pdf...

I came across this: Innate Immune Changes in the Peripheral Blood of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Patients: Risk Factors for Disease Progression and Management (pp. 91-130) from the abstract: "The concept that chronic microbial infection drives constant activation of the innate immune system...

What was changed this time? I would rephrase: they claim its being illegal on its alleged being a private letter. They are probably not joking about trying to legally pursue this, however as long as there is no court ruling I doubt it would be appropriate replicate their use of "illegal", if...

Pathetic, is it me or does this start to look like a recurring pattern? Further changes, anyone save a copy of the previous version?

Fatigatio finally published a statement regarding the new guideline: https://www.fatigatio.de/stellungnahme-zur-s3-ll-muedigkeit/ it reads amateurish, no mention of controversy surrounding changes in the "Methodenreport". Fatigatio basically claims to have tried all but achieved very little...

oh, there's more: they added an explanation as to why NO ONE concerned with "CFS" except for "Dr. Carmen Scheibenbogen" (EUROMENE, btw omitted an academic title of Professor) WERE GIVEN VOTING RIGHTS and are now only listed as "commenting participants", but instead mentioning a cancer-related...

another day, another "Methodenreport". apparently they took the last version offline again and uploaded yet another revision: http://www.degam.de/files/Inhalte/Leitlinien-Inhalte/Dokumente/DEGAM-S3-Leitlinien/053-002 Leitlinie...

I only now saw the link to an archived version of the original Methodenreport was posted before in the thread, will leave mine still so it can be easier found. I'm thinking, maybe it would make sense to condense the gist (or the "gems") of the guideline into a few lines of easy language...

I absolutely agree. But seeing how it is not part of the official report any more, and was claimed to be private and published mistakenly, it might be more tricky. Total BS if you ask me, but I'm only just awaring you guys of this angle and the fact that she has taken legal actions in the...

The original "Methodenreport" containing the outrageous Klasing letter can be found here...

well here's the thing. while I am new to this I find it hard to believe they would 'forget' to include LVS of all participants given their interaction since 2010. https://www.buendnis-mecfs.de/aktivit%C3%A4ten/%C3%BCberarbeitung-der-leitlinie-m%C3%BCdigkeit-teil-1/...

That is to be expected and works for the discussed Klasing letter, but blatant misrepresentation? how would this particular omission fit in? just to keep people busy, attrition, or what?

Translation: "Preliminary statement In the next few days we will be publishing a detailed statement and dissociation concerning the guideline "Tiredness", which was published by the German Society of General Medicine (DEGAM) on February 1,2018. The Lost Voices Foundation, as part of the...

just to be clear, I did not mean to say any such studies had any relevance. It was just the most recent one of this particular BPS flavor I found. I'm pretty sure everything in this vein crumbles as soon as criteria for patient selection are revealed... as you pointed out this cortisol axis...