30th Nov: Cochrane 'have not approved publication of the [Larun] re‐submission' - but old version not withdrawn either.

Seems to me there is a lot of "politics" going on behind the scenes on this one...

 

Some of the cochrane board seem to be rather new additions. I wonder if this is what is at least partly responsible for the growing divide.

 

Sorry don't know if Vink sent his paper to Cochrane. If I remember his paper correctly it was an analysis of the current Cochrane review highlighting the problems with it, rather than bringing in more recent literature literature. Have I understood your question properly? My brain isn't at all good today.

 

https://healthycontrolblog.wordpres...CtPVvDWlKd1Ar11w3nzsMp9_V6FtjB5BUj5isZuRCtHhU

Very good from Caroline Struthers

My complaint to the Cochrane Governing Board about the Cochrane review of Exercise for chronic fatigue syndrome
Caroline Struthers Uncategorized November 29, 2018 5 Minutes


After a lot of to-ing and fro-ing and fruitless correspondence with the Cochrane Editorial Unit by me and many others over years, I was asked yesterday to submit a summary of my complaint about this review to the Governing Board of Cochrane. This is it.

 

I see it has been posted and discussed already. Sorry, I thought it was new.

 

Better twice than not at all .

 

1. Publicly declare that somebody has given in to the anti-science mob
2. Enjoy newspaper coverage in your favour
3. Submit work to person in (1)
4. Wonder why person in (1) might now be a bit more sceptical than before
5. ???
6. Profit

The usual long term planning we all know and love.

 

This blog was referenced on a recent email from Cochrane. It's from the time of their Sep 2018 conference in Edinburgh.

http://www.evidentlycochrane.net/9663-2/

The interviewee has MS and has a key role at NIHR and the interviewer is from Mental Elf!

 

This interview is from the same Cochrane mtg, same interviewer and is supposed to be about Evidence Based Medicine with a GP..

http://www.evidentlycochrane.net/ev...eforall-interview-with-dr-margaret-mccartney/

 

The GP (Margaret McCarney) was discussed earlier in this thread: https://www.s4me.info/threads/bmj-columnist-margaret-mccartney-sums-up-her-content.5669/#post-102659

 

This strategy can be far more effective when faced with very potent opposition. The point is that with each small advance, you dig in and consolidate and hold that ground. One all or nothing offensive is very high risk, and is the sort of thing the BPS opposition are very adroit at counteracting. I think this approach might be giving them some sleepless nights.

 

Feedback submitted from Mark Vink
The studies in the review do not provide any evidence that graded exercise therapy is safe, on the other hand, patient evidence and the literature show that it is not safe.

Cochrane replies:
The Editor in Chief is currently holding discussions with colleagues and the author team to determine a series of steps that will lead to a full update of this review. Your feedback will be considered as part of this process so that it can inform future versions of the review. These discussions will be concluded as soon as possible.



https://twitter.com/user/status/1070369216581300224

 

This is my hope and assumption of what is going on. we'll see soon!