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A clinical study on the effectiveness of biopsychosocial-spiritual treatment approach for diabetic patients, 2020, Khalid and Naz

Discussion in 'Other psychosomatic news and research' started by Andy, Jan 19, 2020.

  1. Andy

    Andy Committee Member

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    Open access, https://jpma.org.pk/article-details/9579
     
    Andy, Jan 19, 2020
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  2. Trish

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    A single case study - I'm surprised a journal of a medical association would publish this.
     
    Trish, Jan 19, 2020
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  3. Lidia

    Lidia Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    How did they control for the improvements made by getting the newly-diagnosed diabetes managed?
     
    Lidia, Jan 19, 2020
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    Mithriel Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    :banghead::banghead::banghead: not enough energy to point out the many flaws in this. It didn't highlight the effectiveness, it only suggested that it may have an effect that someone may like to study.
     
    Mithriel, Jan 19, 2020
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  5. Invisible Woman

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    BPS-S ! :wtf:
     
    Invisible Woman, Jan 19, 2020
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  6. Cheshire

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    So a study on a single patient, having diabetes + "sadness" (depression?) whose outcomes are evaluated on a depression scale, becomes (in the title) a study on diabetes. Seriously?
     
    Cheshire, Jan 19, 2020
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  7. rvallee

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    It was only natural that spiritual pseudoscience would hop on the BPS train. Get all the homeopaths and the acupuncturists and the Reiki specialists on board, you can make all the stuff you want and call it BPS. Then again, acupuncture is already in the mix and Cochrane recently did a review on homeopathy so it's already there.

    Seriously, how can medical journals refuse if the style looks sciencey enough at this point? This is the exact same tripe as LP, distance healing and other stuff that was published by reputable journals.

    Looking forward to BPS-astrological therapy for gout and hair loss trials. The best part is that all they have to do is run the same experiment with tiny variations, then after a few years point back at the cumulative body of evidence and say it's scientifically validated. The playbook is already validated and when stuff like "don't think about pooping and don't poop all the time" being promoted as headlines by the SMC as a breakthrough, everything goes it seems.

    Invite pseudoscience and it will bring all its friends with it. At this point I fully expect an actual gaslighting therapy trial sooner rather than later. As in literally spelling out they intend to gaslight and describe how profoundly they will gaslight and call it aggressive placebo or something. Oh crap, aggressive placebo is totally going to be a thing...
     
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  8. Wonko

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    Didn't Moseley and crew already do that on the BBC a while ago (used placebo, told everyone it was placebo and it kept working for as long as the program lasted).
     
    Wonko, Jan 19, 2020
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  9. Lidia

    Lidia Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Tying BPS to astrology, sprituality, crystal therapy and fish slapping could be the best thing to happen. The lack of clothing becomes a little more apparent...
     
    Lidia, Jan 19, 2020
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