Anyone any experience with probiotics?

InitialConditions

InitialConditions

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Have recently started a course of Symprove. I have a three-month supply. I'm on day 6 and I have felt very washed out this week - the fatigue has been quite brutal and has been present throughout most days.

I need to stick with it because I have no firm evidence that I'm not just going through a 'crashy' period, and because I've paid decent money for the three-month supply.

Anyone like to share their experience of a course of probiotics, particularly stuff like Symprove?
 
maybe try reducing the doseage?
article in the standard on Symprove here

https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyl...tic-for-gut-health-does-it-work-a4126586.html

the writer attributes improvements to the probiotic but says

"I replaced my can a day [coke]with cups and cups of green tea, I started making healthier lunch choices, and I had more vegetarian evening meals."

I have done courses of probiotics in the past (usually Healthspan) whenever I have been prescribed antibiotics, as well as phases of Kefir and other similar foodstuffs. I have greek yoghourt fairly regularly.
NB I'm a lacto-vegetarian.
 
I had a very bad experience with symprove. Initially felt like you, then I improved after about 3 weeks, then I started getting scary neurological symptoms (depersonalisation/ intense anxiety ect) after about 3 months. We are all different, but I would never recommend this (it contains enteroccus bacteria which is known high in m.e. I'll try to find the studies and post). It was a very scary experience.
 
Hopeful1976 said:
I had a very bad experience with symprove. Initially felt like you, then I improved after about 3 weeks, then I started getting scary neurological symptoms (depersonalisation/ intense anxiety ect) after about 3 months. We are all different, but I would never recommend this (it contains enteroccus bacteria which is known high in m.e. I'll try to find the studies and post). It was a very scary experience.
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oh no. sorry to hear this. do you think the neuro symptoms were from Symprove or could they be from other factors? this doesn't fill me with much hope!
 
@InitialConditions

Sorry to hear you're feeling worse. I don't know anything about Symprove. But, I have used other probiotics for many years.

Some alternative practitioners might say your symptom increase is from die off of the bad bacteria. I have read this, and been told that by a naturopathic doctor, who sold me a candida eliminating product.
(I know we can't kill off all our candida, and have even read doing so would be very detrimental). However, I digress.

I have never felt worse from just straight forward probiotics. Years ago, I followed the advice of health food store clerks who told me I just need to take a probiotic till I'm over the yeast infection, or after antibiotics - so a temporary measure. I use them everyday now, as they help with GI problems and brain fog.

There are a number of types of probiotics around - even some from human sources, processed by reputable firms, and sold in
regular health food stores.

Sorry I can't really add anything that might
help. I hope you can sort out if it's the product bothering you. Best wishes.
 
Hopeful1976 said:
I had a very bad experience with symprove. Initially felt like you, then I improved after about 3 weeks, then I started getting scary neurological symptoms (depersonalisation/ intense anxiety ect) after about 3 months. We are all different, but I would never recommend this (it contains enteroccus bacteria which is known high in m.e. I'll try to find the studies and post). It was a very scary experience.
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You shouldn't use the same probiotic continuously. They should be changed up every week or two between a few others and then keep rotating them.
 
TigerLilea said:
You shouldn't use the same probiotic continuously. They should be changed up every week or two between a few others and then keep rotating them.
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I started using a probiotic (Natures AID pro-30 MAX, 30 Billion Live Bacteria, Daily, Super Strength) in 2014 having contracted Sepsis in 2013 and having many oral and i/v antibiotics. This particular product was recommended by the manager of a local Nutrition Centre (been in town for 30 years). I explained my circumstances to them. Anybody should check with their GP/medical advisor first.

About 9 month’s ago I read that you are supposed to take a break from them, which panicked me a bit as I had been on them solidly (with no issues whatsoever). As I had a Biobank appt fixed I didn’t want to amend my medications prior to samples being taken, so waited until after the appt to have a break. Everything was fine in the first four weeks, but by week six I had thrush. Coincidence, quite possibly, but I had not suffered this at all in the previous 4 years. Treated the thrush, started back on the probiotics.

I now have a break of about 2 weeks every so often. Still no problems for me.
 
DokaGirl said:
@InitialConditions

I want to add, I don't know if the die off effect is really what is happening, or is even a true, or correct concept for sure. And, I was told this when feeling much worse from a candida elimination formula, not probiotics.
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This is the same as all that herx stuff everyone always puts a worsening of symptoms down to. probability is the person is just going through a rough patch!
 
Just reading this thread now and interested in learning from other user's experiences. My gastro just started me on Mutaflor for my IBS/SIBO and it seems to be helping me
 
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