Cholesterol anyone ?

@Dechi Look for "The Nature of Things" with David Suzuki on YouTube, and look for their story on cholesterol. I watched it this afternoon and it's very interesting. Doctors should be more concerned about inflammation and 'C-reactive Protein'.
 
TigerLilea said:
@Dechi Look for "The Nature of Things" with David Suzuki on YouTube, and look for their story on cholesterol. I watched it this afternoon and it's very interesting. Doctors should be more concerned about inflammation and 'C-reactive Protein'.
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Thank you, I will !
 
Wonko said:
I've always had the impression that oatmeal and porridge were the same concept, but used different part of the oats, or differently milled oats at least. (i.e. porridge oats are not the whole oat squished, they are a refined product. I understood oatmeal was the whole oat squished, porridge oats have the germ, husk etc. removed.

I may of course be wrong, it's been difficult ot get any clarity on the matter the few times i have looked into it, and without being abe to buy something called 'oatmeal' in the UK, impossible to compare.
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You had me curious so I looked it up. It’s complicated for my hurting ME brain tonight, but it seems oatmeal is a type of porridge. Porridge can be made of a variety of grains.

https://www.foodsforbetterhealth.com/porridge-vs-oatmeal-33248
 
TigerLilea said:
What we call oatmeal in North America is what they call porridge in the UK. Technically, I think that porridge is any type of hot cereal.
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Oatmeal is a type of cereal and porridge could be made of another type of cereal and still be called oatmeal, whereas we would call it something else. That’s what I understood. Also you’re right, porridge is always hot.
 
Wonko said:
I've always had the impression that oatmeal and porridge were the same concept, but used different part of the oats, or differently milled oats at least. (i.e. porridge oats are not the whole oat squished, they are a refined product. I understood oatmeal was the whole oat squished, porridge oats have the germ, husk etc. removed.

I may of course be wrong, it's been difficult ot get any clarity on the matter the few times i have looked into it, and without being abe to buy something called 'oatmeal' in the UK, impossible to compare.
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You can buy oatmeal in Waitrose :

https://www.waitrose.com/ecom/products/mornflake-stoneground-oatmeal-medium/580533-674502-674503

It is different to porridge oats. I used to use it for making stuffing for poultry. In Scotland you can buy fine oatmeal, medium oatmeal and coarse oatmeal. In England I've only ever seen medium oatmeal.

There is a famous quote by Samuel Johnson on the subject of oats :

“Oats: A grain, which in England is generally given to horses, but in Scotland appears to support the people.”

– Samuel Johnson, A Dictionary of the English Language
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Dechi said:
Oatmeal is a type of cereal and porridge could be made of another type of cereal and still be called oatmeal, whereas we would call it something else. That’s what I understood. Also you’re right, porridge is always hot.
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A long time ago (1980’s/early 90’s) I did work on b-glucan research and it’s cholesterol lowering properties.

It’s this part of oats that is the cholesterol lowering molecule ....it’s a polysaccharide and it works by forming a barrier to absorbing fat/cholesterol In the gut

You can get the benefit from many foods containing oats or b-glucan

Porridge
Granola
Oat breakfast biscuits
Oat pancakes
Oat based snack bars
Baked goods

I’ve pretty much subbed wheat for oats as my main carbohydrate source just by way of a preventative measure. You need to consume a reasonable amount (3-4 portions a day). Some packs now tell you how much b-Glucan they contain. You need 3g of b-glucan daily to get a cholesterol lowering effect. For context that is one and a half cups of oatmeal.

Other cereals such as barley also contain it but at lower levels than oats.

Here is a bit more about it

https://www.eufic.org/en/healthy-li...larly-helps-maintain-normal-blood-cholesterol

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3236515/
 
An anecdote :

Several years ago I increased the amount of soluble fibre I ingested by taking psyllium seed husk powder in lots and lots of water every day. I did this for a few years. I found that it lowered my high cholesterol by a substantial amount, although it wasn't my cholesterol that made me try the psyllium seed husk in the first place, it was gut/bowel problems. After a few years it was discovered that I had what was described as a giant polyp in my colon, and it was bleeding. I don't know why, but ever since the polyp was removed I've never been able to tolerate psyllium seed husk again. I have wondered whether the psyllium seed husk was actually the cause of the polyp I got. Fibre can scratch the surface of the bowel, and if it happens repeatedly I think it is possible it encourages polyps to grow, but I can't prove this. Nobody else in my family has or had a history of colon polyps or bowel cancer, and none of them ever took fibre supplements that I'm aware of.
 
Arnie Pye said:
An anecdote :

Several years ago I increased the amount of soluble fibre I ingested by taking psyllium seed husk powder in lots and lots of water every day. I did this for a few years. I found that it lowered my high cholesterol by a substantial amount, although it wasn't my cholesterol that made me try the psyllium seed husk in the first place, it was gut/bowel problems. After a few years it was discovered that I had what was described as a giant polyp in my colon, and it was bleeding. I don't know why, but ever since the polyp was removed I've never been able to tolerate psyllium seed husk again. I have wondered whether the psyllium seed husk was actually the cause of the polyp I got. Fibre can scratch the surface of the bowel, and if it happens repeatedly I think it is possible it encourages polyps to grow, but I can't prove this. Nobody else in my family has or had a history of colon polyps or bowel cancer, and none of them ever took fibre supplements that I'm aware of.
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B-glucan is soluble fibre so like pectin and gums ...so nice and smooth with no scratching :) In a beaker it looks a bit like runny wallpaper paste...obviously oats have insoluble fibre as well. I always thought physyllium husk looked a bit like hops ...what does it taste like?
 
arewenearlythereyet said:
B-glucan is soluble fibre so like pectin and gums ...so nice and smooth with no scratching :) In a beaker it looks a bit like runny wallpaper paste...obviously oats have insoluble fibre as well. I always thought physyllium husk looked a bit like hops ...what does it taste like?
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A bit like I imagine wallpaper paste to taste, to be honest. I used to flavour it with weak Ribena or blackcurrant and apple squash just to make it palatable enough to get down.
 
Dechi said:
Great tip for vegetables ! I do buy prepared fresh salads but they get boring. I also buy all prepared meals, like shepard’s pie. I can’t really cut vegetables, so I sometimes buy them cut as well, but never really thought about cooking them in the oven. Ma daughter makes those for me sometimes.

I’ve never seen canned chicken, but I don’t know if I would like that. I’ll have to search for it.
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Shepherd’s pie sounds delicious, but we’re not shepherds anymore. It has a pie crust, right? If so, I’d put that to not more than four times per year if you’re serious about battling this condition.

OK that sounds harsh when I read it back to myself, but what I mean is not “oh, you lazy somaticizing faker, just hit the gym and eat right like me!”. More like “we’re up against an unforgiving condition, and in some cases severe, austere measure are required.” I miss satisfying, comforting foods but I like dumping a huuge blob of deadly stomach fat more. I still have after-effects from it, I’m not letting that thing back into my life again.
 
Sisyphus said:
Shepherd’s pie sounds delicious, but we’re not shepherds anymore. It has a pie crust, right? If so, I’d put that to not more than four times per year if you’re serious about battling this condition.
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The way we make shepard’s pie around here is very simple : ground beef at the bottom, 1 can of corn + 1 can of cream-style corn in the middle and 1 row of mashed potatoes on top. Put that in the oven for 30-45 minutes and you’re done ! I buy it (homemade) at the grocery store. I almost never eat crust. Maybe twice a year.
 
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