Concerns about Cochrane

[rvallee]

Oh yes. We'd have to win on this criterion.

Scale up by scaling down! It's addition by subtraction. We could fit so many sports metaphors in this baby.

But yeah this could be scaled up manyfold and barely get off the starting line. Decades of messes to clean up don't happen in a day.

 

[Sean]

Decades of messes to clean up don't happen in a day.

Especially when those who created the mess are still in power and doing everything they can to prevent it being cleaned up.

 

[bobbler]

New article from Danish Ugeskriftet
Går Peter Gøtzsche eller går han ikke?
google translation: Is Peter Gøtzsche leaving or not?

I've tried to fix some of the worst parts of the google translation:
While the medical world is waiting for answers to these questions, Peter Gøtzsche has published on his
personal website the attorney's report on which the board justified his exclusion.

The Board of Directors has so far maintained that the report could not be presented openly - at least not in its entirety - for legal reasons and for personnel reasons. Now Peter Gøtzsche has done it himself.

...

Of the many fact-intensive pages, it is clear that the relationship between Peter Gøtzsche and Cochrane's CEO Mark Wilson is bad, very bad indeed. Wilson is the man who has direct contact with Peter Gøtzsche in connection with the many questions and complaints, and the material presents, for example. allegations that Mark Wilson has shouted at Peter Gøtzsche and "lost his head".

...

The overall impression of the lawyer's report - which the lawyer apologizes for is very long, he has not had time to make it shorter as he writes - is this:

Peter Gøtzsche may have been too close to the limits of what he can allow himself to do, and he has probably overstepped a bit concerning spokesman's policy, but the rules are unclear and he has not done it to such an extent that It should trigger criminal measures.

The message from the lawyer is, in fact, directed at the Cochrane Co-operation Board: Control your rules and policies so that there is no doubt about them.

Here is link to the full report from the lawyer

JUst looking this up to see what it says today as a policy: Spokesperson policy | Cochrane Community

Not got far with reading it yet but thought I'd paste link here.

 

[bobbler]

From the article in Ugetidsskriftet, it's still uncertain wether or not they can remove him from Nordic Cochrane:

This is interesting.

I've just looked up Nordic Cochrane out of curiosity to see who the new head is, and found that it has become Cochrane Denmark in 2021:
Cochrane Nordic moves to the University of Southern Denmark with an affiliation to the Center for Evidence-Based Medicine Odense | Cochrane Denmark

 

[bobbler]

There is now a petition in support of Peter Gøtzsche:

Letter to Danish Minister of Health against dismissal of Peter Gotzsche

Initiators are:
David Hammerstein former member of the Cochrane Governing Board and former Member of the European Parliament
Tom Jefferson MD MRCGP FFPHM, Senior Associate Tutor, University of Oxford, Oxford OX2 6GG Member, Cochrane Collaboration

The petition has 5,872 signatures by now

I've found this from 7th Nov: Hospital's suspension of evidence-based medicine expert sparks new controversy | Science | AAAS

which mentions the petition and some context too