Coronavirus - worldwide spread and control

[oldtimer]

So easy @shak8 .

After the severe bushfires in Aus recently, and before the coronavirus, I went tissue-free. That felt so virtuous I bought a pile of really cheap face washers from KMart, cut them in quarters, stitched the edges and now have a box of "wee wipes". They get swished around in a bucket of detergent and rinsed when I feel like it.

The original plan for this had been brewing for several months since I had a blocked sewer pipe. It was on 'their' side so I hadn't caused it but the plumber told me he gets quite a bit of work unblocking sewer pipes because people save water by not flushing as much and only using a half flush. This means there might not be enough water to clear the paper properly.

Whether urine is sterile or not , it's pretty harmless. For blokes, we all know where the last drips go and nobody has ever worried about that in the laundry basket

 

[shak8]

I looked up on Dettol and Zoflora disinfectant websites although they haven’t yet been able to test against the new virus their products are also effective against similar viruses so there’s a good chance they will work. https://www.dettol.co.uk/about-us/understanding-coronavirus/

My favorite disinfectant is cheap and easily available, or was.

Household bleach.

We used it in the dialysis units to disinfect machines and surfaces.

It's one part full-strength bleach to 9 parts cold water. (you can eyeball it making sure there's more than enough bleach, but may lighten fabrics, carpets).

Make it fresh before use. Allow solution contact with surface for 10 minutes.

Is effective on the toughest viruses.
At this dilution, it should not bleach carpets and clothes by accident.

 

[Kitty]

Why are people stockpiling tissue paper and water? Last I heard COV19 doesn't cause diarrhea

I've got the runs, so I've just ordered 44 bottles of calamine lotion...

 

[JemPD]

I've got the runs, so I've just ordered 44 bottles of calamine lotion...

Calamine? does that work on a sore botty? I get the runs a LOT, so am interested to know.

apologies if that TMI

I do seem to be being rather foul mouthed this evening

 

[Kitty]

Calamine? does that work on a sore botty?

I doubt it! (I was being facetious in response to @Mij's post – sorry.)

A friend saw a bloke leaving a supermarket with two trollies of loo roll a couple of days back. No food as far as she could see, just an 18-month supply of tissue in case he got a virus that doesn't even make you sneeze.

 

[shak8]

So easy @shak8 .

After the severe bushfires in Aus recently, and before the coronavirus, I went tissue-free. That felt so virtuous I bought a pile of really cheap face washers from KMart, cut them in quarters, stitched the edges and now have a box of "wee wipes". They get swished around in a bucket of detergent and rinsed when I feel like it.

The original plan for this had been brewing for several months since I had a blocked sewer pipe. It was on 'their' side so I hadn't caused it but the plumber told me he gets quite a bit of work unblocking sewer pipes because people save water by not flushing as much and only using a half flush. This means there might not be enough water to clear the paper properly.

Whether urine is sterile or not , it's pretty harmless. For blokes, we all know where the last drips go and nobody has ever worried about that in the laundry basket

For the record, urine is sterile unless you have a urinary tract infection, but picks up germs as it exits the body and of course later begins to smell urine-y.

 

[Snow Leopard]

I found this interesting too:

It is important not to confuse risk of infection with risk of complications or death, which are very much influenced by respiratory conditions such as Asthma and COPD.

 

[oldtimer]

For the record, urine is sterile unless you have a urinary tract infection, but picks up germs as it exits the body and of course later begins to smell urine-y.

I've read lately that this is actually a myth and that the bladder has its own microbiome.

Found it! https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/...uld-be-game-changer-for-uti-treatment/9822020

 

[shak8]

I've read lately that this is actually a myth and that the bladder has its own microbiome.

Found it! https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/...uld-be-game-changer-for-uti-treatment/9822020

Interesting! I think my coursework and clinical experience are past their sell-by date.

 

[oldtimer]

It is an interesting article, isn't it.
I had always assumed urine was sterile too because there are plenty of people who think it's a health drink. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine_therapy#Modern_claims_and_findings).
And of course there are those who get a lot of pleasure from drinking it, bugs or not - but that's too far off topic

 

[Barry]

Does anyone know how the risks stack up for people with either asthma or type-2 diabetes if they get Covid-19?

 

[Barry]

I had always assumed urine was sterile too because there are plenty of people who think it's a health drink. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine_therapy#Modern_claims_and_findings).
And of course there are those who get a lot of pleasure from drinking it, bugs or not - but that's too far off topic

As a teenager there was a certain famous actress I took rather a shine to ... until I read she did this. Instant turn off!

 

[mango]

[...] Corvid-19?

 

[Barry]

Sorry! I'll correct .

 

[JemPD]

I doubt it! (I was being facetious in response to @Mij's post – sorry.)

A friend saw a bloke leaving a supermarket with two trollies of loo roll a couple of days back. No food as far as she could see, just an 18-month supply of tissue in case he got a virus that doesn't even make you sneeze.

oh hahaha sorry it was late & I was dense, always got my eye out for things that can help with that problem, thought I might have found a little known fix

 

[Trish]

Prof Vincent Raccaniello has written about Coronavirus on Virology blog.

SARS-CoV-2: Could it be bad? 27th February

Health experts say it’s not a question of whether SARS-CoV-2 will spread within the U.S., but when. A CDC official said yesterday, “We are asking the American public to prepare for the expectation that this might be bad.” What exactly does that mean?
...

SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus case fatality ratio 5th March

...
The case fatality ratio for a disease is the number of fatalities divided by the number of confirmed infections. The latter number is typically obtained by laboratory diagnosis, in the current outbreak via RT-PCR, which detects viral nucleic acids. As of this writing this ‘crude’ global CFR for COVID-19 is 3214 deaths divided by 94,250 cases which is 3.4%. This crude CFR is high: for comparison, the CFR for seasonal influenza is 0.1%. However, as I will show below, this number is not a one-size-fits all, and is influenced by many factors. Please do not look at 3.4% as an indicator of your risk of dying from COVID-19!
...

 

[Snow Leopard]

Does anyone know how the risks stack up for people with either asthma or type-2 diabetes if they get Covid-19?

We don't really know yet as we don't have detailed whole-population datasets. But looking at ARDS in general, asthma is a risk factor for severity, whereas diabetes is not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_respiratory_distress_syndrome

 

[Kitty]

Sorry! I'll correct .

I took a different track – now can't stop singing it to 'Come on, Eileen'.

 

[Barry]

We don't really know yet as we don't have detailed whole-population datasets. But looking at ARDS in general, asthma is a risk factor for severity, whereas diabetes is not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_respiratory_distress_syndrome

And yet there is a lot in the news about people being at higher risk with other health conditions, and they always mention diabetes.

 

[Barry]

https://diabetesvoice.org/en/news/covid-19-and-diabetes/

Older people and people with pre-existing medical conditions (such as diabetes, heart disease and asthma) appear to be more vulnerable to becoming severely ill with the COVID-19 virus. When people with diabetes develop a viral infection, it can be harder to treat due to fluctuations in blood glucose levels and, possibly, the presence of diabetes complications. There appear to be two reasons for this. Firstly, the immune system is compromised, making it harder to fight the virus and likely leading to a longer recovery period. Secondly, the virus may thrive in an environment of elevated blood glucose.